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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 February 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Do you have a sense, from your work on the farm, what would work?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

We have already touched on the food system and the need for it to be integrated. The draft plan focuses mainly on agricultural production; it says much less about the wider food system with regard to things such as consumption, waste and dietary changes. From your perspective, does the fact that we are not already talking about those issues as part of the climate change plan represent a gap? It has already been suggested that it does. If so, what kind of policies would help to close that gap?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I will pop back in with a supplementary on that specific point. I was surprised to learn from Henry Dimbleby’s UK report on food and the book that came out of it, which was called “Ravenous: How to get ourselves and our planet into shape”, that people would only need to reduce the meat that they ate as part of their normal diet for two days a week in order to reduce emissions. I thought that that was interesting, and I wonder whether you have any thoughts on it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Twice in this meeting so far, we have talked about trees falling, which is a real thing—we see that from storms such as storm Arwen. Do we need to be thinking about taking a more joined-up approach, where we are not looking at the carbon sequestered in a forest, but at the timber that goes into housing, where it cannot fall down?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I need a little bit more understanding for this conversation. This is not the question that I was going to ask, but I would like to get a sense of this from Nim Kibbler. You have talked a number of times about resource efficiency. At the very beginning of the evidence session, I noted down your mentioning healthy livestock and local food in that context. Could you unpack what you mean by “resource efficiency” a bit more, so that we can understand it?

You can perhaps also touch on the question that I was going to ask, which follows on from Emma Harper’s questions on opportunities with what could be used as fertiliser. That is also what Donna Smith talked about in discussing how crofters are using seaweed. The seaweed sector in Scotland is growing; it seems to be moving. Does that present a possible opportunity for more natural fertilisers, or does it become too technical?

Anyway—what does “resource efficiency” mean?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Okay. I guess that I will just have to go and research it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That would be helpful. It seems to me that that is quite an important part of the conversation, which we need to unpack and understand more.

What about the seaweed? Do we think that it presents a possibility?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Is there enough funding and other support to allow you to think about where to put the trees and so on?

10:45

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Nim, you talked about soil being a driving factor in the overall—you used the word “holistic”—practice that you and other farmers in the Nature Friendly Farming Network use. In the whole farm plan, there is a soil test that farmers can opt into voluntarily. However, it is surprising to me is that farmers do not test their soil, if soil is a driving factor. That testing is currently optional. What more do we need in place?

There is a spectrum of people, ranging from those who have never tested their soil all the way to Mr Griffin down in the Borders—I cannot remember his first name—who tests his soil to an incredible level. What more would we need, by way of support, training and so on, to help farmers to move to an understanding that soil really is a direct, driving factor?

09:30

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

It has been an interesting conversation so far. I can predict the answer to this question. The plan assumes that around 45 per cent of farmers will take up low-carbon measures, with most of that happening after 2030. As 2030 is the year before the next election, I think that the Government assumes that a lot of work will be done from 2026 to 2030, in terms of that rabbit that will come out of the bag.

From where you sit, does it feel realistic that we will get to 2030 and we will suddenly have that uptake? What would need to change on the ground for the uptake to scale now and into session 7? We have talked a lot about policy, but what other things do we need to help farmers to move in the holistic direction that we are talking about? [Interruption.]