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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

That is really helpful. I look forward to seeing those slides because it would be helpful to see that scenario illustrated.

As someone already mentioned, this is an interesting morning on which to take evidence because the budget is about to be announced. We will be even more informed, in a few hours, as to what is going on.

I will bring in Pam Gosal with a question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

Absolutely.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the 31st meeting in 2023 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. Please note that we have received apologies from Mark Griffin.

I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent.

The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take items 3 and 4 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

That more nuanced approach is very interesting. There might not be only one way to approach the relationship. Instead, depending on the issue or policy, there could be different ways to do things, either by funding an agent or by supporting a democratically elected partnership. That is very helpful.

Donna Hall, do you have any thoughts about rebuilding trust or any experience of the relationship between national and local governments in other parts of the world?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

I come back to Jonathan Carr-West. You did some research that involved talking to council leaders. However, in my understanding, the Verity house agreement is an agreement between the Scottish Government and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities. That is where the communications happen, and then COSLA has a way of communicating with the leadership of local authorities.

Do you have any communication with COSLA around communications and what is happening there?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. As I said earlier, there is work being done in the Scottish Government around council tax reform. I would say bring it on, as soon as possible.

We move to questions from Marie McNair.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

We need to move on; we are about halfway through.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

You mentioned that the agreement does not provide mechanisms for choices. Could you illuminate a little what might need to be there?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

Donna, you spoke really well and inspirationally about the changes and the new deal in Wigan. What scrutiny of the agreement do we need to take on?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

New Deal with Local Government

Meeting date: 19 December 2023

Ariane Burgess

That is brilliant. I love that idea. We need to learn how to collaborate better. There are a lot of skill sets around that that need to be expanded and opened up. That is a great suggestion. I am not quite sure who would be involved with the Parliament, but that is certainly something to take forward. We are certainly getting a lot from you. Earlier, all of you commented that you are not bringing up a debate in this conversation, but I have found this session to be extraordinarily constructive in getting ideas and suggestions about things that we need to look at and take further as a committee.

Stephanie Callaghan has the last question.