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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is interesting. I think that the point about four definitions of height, which was made by the previous panel, applied to England. I do not know what the situation is in Scotland, but clearly there are differences north and south of the border, as Calum McQueen said.

Pam Gosal has a couple of questions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That would be very welcome.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Okay, perhaps we will go to John Marr on that one.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Mervyn, would you like to come in with the insurance perspective?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I think that there is more to that issue, but I will move on so that we get to some of the other questions that we want to ask.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that perspective.

I have one final question. Do you think that there is a sufficient number of qualified fire engineers, surveyors, other building industry professionals and contractors in Scotland to undertake single building assessments and cladding remediation within a reasonable timescale? If not, how might any shortfall be tackled? I would be interested to hear your perspective on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I am sure that that will be heartening news to the people who own the buildings.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much.

That concludes our questions. We have had yet another very helpful panel this morning, and we are certainly getting a much clearer picture of all the different permutations and of how we can make this a good piece of legislation that will meet people’s needs. It is quite challenging, but it has been really good to hear from you.

As previously agreed, we will take the next three items in private. That was the last public item on our agenda, so I now close the public part of the meeting.

11:57 Meeting continued in private until 12:33.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. We now proceed to questions from members. I ask the witnesses to indicate to me if they would like to respond to a question or to something that someone else has said. As Paul Turnbull is participating virtually, I ask him to do that by typing an R in the chat function. I ask my colleagues Stephanie Callaghan and Willie Coffey to do that, too.

The intention is that this should be a free-flowing conversation rather than a question-and-answer session. We will see how we do with that. We have quite a few questions and prompts. There is no need for you to manually turn on your microphones, as we will do that for you.

I will begin. I have a few questions, one of which is a big question about the bill. Chris Ashurst, I will direct it at you initially, so that you pay attention when I ask it. The Scottish Government has not publicly consulted on the proposals in the bill. Given that, do you think that the bill addresses the concerns that owners and residents have been raising with the Scottish Government over the past few years?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Yes.