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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

We turn to questions from members. Please indicate to me if you would like to come in or to respond to something that somebody has said. The intention is that this should be a free-flowing conversation instead of a question-and-answer session, although sometimes that can be difficult to achieve. Let us see how we do.

I will start with a few general questions. To what extent do you think that the vision that is expressed in “Housing to 2040” is still fit for purpose and deliverable? Connected to that, do you think that the Scottish Government’s legislative programme, and its housing policy more generally, seek to deliver on the ambitions of “Housing to 2040” in a coherent way that considers the housing system holistically? Whoever feels prompted can come forward.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I would like to come back to you for more detail on that, but first I will bring some other people in.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for bringing in retrofit. That is certainly an aspect that I agree with you on.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. Other hands are going back up, but I will bring in Chris Birt first.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Is it possible to move away from annualising the SHIPs, given that the Scottish Government has to work on an annual budget? We have been having quite a bit of conversation about multiyear funding and that kind of thing. Would it be possible to do that? What would be the mechanisms?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is what national planning framework 4 is asking us to do. Marie, did you want to ask your question?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

We have some tenant participation in another piece of work that we are doing, which has been very helpful.

To continue the theme of including and involving local communities, tenants and residents in delivery plans, I invite Ronnie Macrae from the Communities Housing Trust to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Is there some policy that should change, or do we need a different understanding? What would make that a happy marriage?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is a good point. Priority is coming through as a theme today.

Emma Jackson, you wanted to come in a while ago, so pick up wherever you want to.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

The committee has certainly taken an interest in damp and mould, and we have been taking evidence on that issue.

On the point about remaining in a home, I was at the Rural Housing Scotland conference last week, part of which was the Scottish Ecological Design Association—SEDA—land talks. A speaker pointed out that Scotland has around 40,000 empty homes—we have already touched on the need to tackle that—and there are 20,000 second homes in rural areas. They were basically pointing out where we can find potential for housing.

One striking figure was that there are 900,000 homes in Scotland—I need to find out where they got this statistic—with single people living in them. I have come upon quite a few situations in which single people want to move in order to downsize. I totally take the point that people need to be supported to remain in a home, but this situation is another bit of the puzzle. It touches on what Ronnie has been talking about—the holistic bit. We need to look at all the housing stock and the different situations and be able to say, “These people live in big houses, they are single, they are desperately needing to move out, and we can get families in there.” How do we start to move those things together?