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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will pick up a couple of questions to explore the rural revitalisation that NPF4 aims to produce. When we were talking about compact urban growth and finding the balance, Catriona Hill said that we need a different approach and different solutions for rural areas. What evidence do you have on rural revitalisation?

I also have a very specific question that has been raised with me in my region around policy 17, which is on rural homes. It was raised by an architectural firm that does design and build. In the past, it has been able to use infill and gap sites and to extend existing groups of domestic or non-domestic buildings. Under NPF4, the council that it works with has turned down its using such sites. Maybe there is a bit of conflict around the need for biodiversity in that space. We have such a desperate need for housing in rural areas. Are you aware of such things?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

Does anyone else have any thoughts around NPF4 and how it is contributing to rural revitalisation so far? I know that we are on a long journey, and that it might be too early to tell.

10:15  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

Catriona Hill wants to come in. Pam—do you still want to ask your supplementary question?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

There are three more questions, but I have a quick supplementary question on that. Would a cadastral system be useful?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

Yes—absolutely.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

Who wants to pick up that question? You do not have to go through all 18 of those. It might be a very early stage for that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

That might be something that we can look into, as well. Active travel is a network, and it has a budget. It would be interesting to understand how that is progressing.

I have a final question about the national outcomes. Last week, the Scottish Government proposed a new set of national outcomes, including a new outcome for housing:

“We live in safe, high-quality and affordable homes that meet our needs.”

Earlier, our panellists spoke about the difficulty in aligning the various national policies. Could a new overarching national outcome for housing help with that alignment? To what extent does the delivery of NPF4 already connect with the existing national outcomes—for example, on communities and the environment? That is a small question to end. Does anybody have any thoughts about a new national outcome for housing?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

Exactly.

We have come to the end of our questions. This is the first of a number of sessions that we will have on national planning framework 4, and it has been very helpful. Thank you very much for joining us.

I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:41 Meeting suspended.  

10:47 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

I welcome our witnesses on our second and final panel this morning. I apologise for starting quite a bit later than we anticipated, but we had a good first discussion on the national planning framework with the previous panel.

We are joined in the room by Kevin Murphy, head of planning at Homes for Scotland, and Ailsa Raeburn, chair of Community Land Scotland. Online, we are joined by Tony Cain, policy manager at the Association of Local Authority Chief Housing Officers, otherwise known as ALACHO, and Donna Young, co-ordinator at Rural Housing Scotland. I welcome you all.

We will try to direct our questions to a specific person initially but, if you want to come in, please indicate to me or the clerks. Donna and Tony, you can do that by typing R in the chat function and we will bring you in. There is no need to operate your microphones—we will do that for you.

I will start with a question for Kevin Murphy. How have house builders changed their approach to development in light of the policy priorities set out in NPF4, particularly with regard to climate change and biodiversity?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will throw that question to Tony Cain as well.