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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 October 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

We know that some local authorities have been in the space for some time. I think that we heard from East Ayrshire Council that it has been doing this work for 20 or 21 years already. There is nothing to stop local authorities that are busy with the food journey, or whatever we are calling it, but when section 10 commences, it will trigger a requirement for them to create plans that have specific elements. Will that also trigger the financial resources to help local authorities with the engagement and the consultation that they will have to do on those plans?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

There has been quite a bit of conversation about there being money for the plans for local authorities, but there are concerns about whether it is the same for implementation. I take your point—which you have mentioned a few times in other places—that it is not until there are plans that you can look at resource and funding for implementation. However, have you done any calculations? Have you looked at what it might cost a local authority to deliver a plan?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

Just on that, before I bring in Mark Griffin, does the Government intend to look into that situation, to learn and understand why there had been a local supplier but the contract moved to a different supplier, and what needs to happen to support SMEs that may have got a contract but then lost it?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

We have a few more questions and the next one is about the third sector. Your colleague Ivan McKee introduced the public service reform strategy, which talks about the third sector being a key delivery partner. However, we have heard from Age Scotland that the national good food plan, which was worked on before the public service reform strategy, or in parallel with it

“fails to mention any of the contributions made by local community charitable groups and third sector organisations and the services and support they offer to communities.”

I am interested in understanding whether that is an oversight and whether there is an intention to revise the plan and acknowledge those organisations and services further.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is to take evidence as part of our scrutiny of the Scottish budget 2026-27. Malcolm Burr, chief executive of Comhairle nan Eilean Siar, joins us in the room. We are joined online by Nikki Bridle, chief executive of Clackmannanshire Council; Thomas Glen, chief executive of Perth and Kinross Council; Ken Gourlay, chief executive of Fife Council; and Dr Dawn Roberts, chief executive of Dumfries and Galloway Council. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting. We have around 90 minutes for our discussion. There is no need for you to operate your microphones. Members will try to direct their questions to specific witnesses in the first instance. However, if you wish to contribute, please indicate to me or to the clerks, or do so online by typing R in the chat.

I will begin the questions, and I will bring you all in for this first one. As I said when we were in private session, Malcolm, we will probably end up picking on you a lot, as you are the only one in the room. I will initially aim the question to you, and we will then go round everybody online.

It is a broad question. What are the main challenges facing the comhairle, and what would you like to see in the Scottish budget to help to address them?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that, Nikki. It is interesting to hear your point about the distribution mechanisms not working for a local authority of your size on the mainland.

Ken Gourlay, you indicated that you would like to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks. Thomas Glen, you have not indicated that you would like to speak, so I will not push you. You might have an answer for my next question.

I will come back to you, Ken, because you mentioned social care. The committee is aware that local authorities are now doing more in the areas of early years provision, free school meals and adult social care. I would be interested to hear what, in order to do more in those areas, each local authority is having to do less of, and what impacts those reductions are having on individuals, businesses and communities. It is quite a big question.

Ken, I will ask you to start. We might have sent you a message about your headset and microphone. Do not worry about that now—just continue. We can hear you well enough.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Ariane Burgess

We are having a technology-related pause.