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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 February 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I will come to Dr Cook in a moment, but I will start with Alastair Hamilton.

You said that the closure is not doing anything—in fact, Dr Cook said that it is not enhancing the stock. You said that the focus is a closed area for spawning but asked whether—I am paraphrasing you, because I cannot write that quickly—that is the most effective way to protect a spawning stock. What would another way be? From what I am hearing and from what I have read, this approach is not doing what we need it to do, which is to protect the cod and make sure that we have a future cod stock. What else could we be doing that might be better?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

On a point of clarification, what kind of disturbance are we talking about? Is it disturbance from sound, from trawling, from contact with the bottom of the seabed or from something else?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Before I ask my main question, I want to understand what climate modelling we are basing the climate plan on. What data is being used, for instance?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I mean in terms of the very big picture of everything. Is the modelling based on Met Office data? The Government has built this plan, but I am concerned about whether it is based on the most up-to-date climate modelling. I am aware that modelling projections have changed—change has sped up and there are other things in the mix. For example, I know that the Scottish Environment Protection Agency is not your domain, but my understanding is that its approach is based on much older data and we are not really taking into account the level of flooding and the problems that we are going to have with that. I am concerned that we are building a plan that is based on a certain climate baseline or modelling, when the climate will be even worse than that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I am a bit concerned that we have a lot to get through. That was helpful, Brendan, but I think that it was about the emissions from forestry and the sequestration through trees. Maybe you can write to the committee on this, but the point that I am trying to get at is about the fundamental climate modelling that we are basing everything on. We have to have a foundation of assumptions on the climate impacts. We are starting to realise that change is happening much faster. We have developed a climate change plan that is looking at our carbon emissions and sequestration, but have we based it on the right model in the first place? That is what I am looking for. Maybe I should leave it there and you can write to the committee.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That would be super, thank you.

My question is about voluntary uptake. The draft plan assumes a 45 per cent uptake of low-carbon farming measures, which will be voluntary. It also says that the approach may be “beyond an achievable level”, which is a bit concerning. Witnesses who gave evidence on 14 January, particularly Dr Vera Eory and Professor Dave Reay, were explicit in their view that a subsidy-only voluntary approach is weak and financially unsustainable at scale. They stressed the need for a “credible policy threat”; in other words, we would need stronger measures that are not voluntary. I raised that area with them, as I am concerned that we are basing the transformation on a high level of voluntary uptake. What do we do if that does not happen? What gives you confidence that the emissions will still reduce, and what is the Government’s back-up plan if the voluntary schemes do not deliver?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Monitoring will help us to know whether we are doing the right thing and how to course correct.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I notice that the first phase of the plan takes us to 2030, which will be the year before an election, so in December 2030 we could be in a situation similar to the one that we are in now, at the end of a parliamentary session. How things have been set up concerns me, because the parliamentary session will be wrapping up at that point—as is the case today—and there will be a compressed amount of time to properly scrutinise the plan.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Okay. Thanks for providing that broader picture. At the beginning of your answer, you said that, in an ideal scenario—I am paraphrasing—we could plant on mineral soils in the most productive areas but that doing so would limit us and push us on to farmland. I am more interested in the point about limiting us. In what way would we be limited? Is it just that we would end up on farmland?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

You mention—