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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 October 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Look at that—it is 11:40 exactly. Well done, everyone, and thank you so much for answering the questions thoroughly and well. It has been a really good conversation and we managed to come in on time. Thanks a lot for joining us this morning. You have given us very good information for our inquiry.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow the witnesses to leave.

11:40 Meeting suspended.  

11:42 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is great to hear from you. We will let the session run on for a little bit longer, but we are a bit tight for time, because there are lots of people sitting behind you in the public gallery who have things to say.

Alexander Stewart has some questions on longer-term issues.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much, Professor Maclennan, for joining us this morning. I have allowed the session to run a bit longer, because I felt that your answers were really useful to the committee and our work. I very much appreciate your coming and joining us this morning.

I am now going to suspend briefly to allow for a changeover of witnesses—

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

I have another general question, which, again, is probably for all of you, although you do not all have to come in. I asked Paul McLennan—I mean Duncan Maclennan. I asked Professor Maclennan when we will know when a housing emergency is over and what that will look like. I will probably ask Paul McLennan that; maybe I have already asked him. I put that to Duncan—sorry, I mean Gordon MacRae.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Willie Coffey has a number of questions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

I might just switch it off now. [Laughter.]

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Part of the challenge is that legislation is a bit linear. You can only do so much in a session, so it is hard to pull it all out and do it all at once.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

I take your point that it would be good to do it in a more holistic way, but it is a challenging piece.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Emma Roddick has a supplementary question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

We are joined on our second panel by Callum Chomczuk, who is the national director of the Chartered Institute of Housing in Scotland; Sharon Egan, who is the head of housing services at South Lanarkshire Council, and is representing the Association of Local Authority Chief Housing Officers, otherwise known as ALACHO; Eilidh Keay, who is the Edinburgh city chair of Living Rent; Jennifer Kennedy, who is the director of public affairs at Homes for Scotland; Carolyn Lochhead, who is the director of external affairs at the Scottish Federation of Housing Associations; and Gordon MacRae, who is the assistant director of communications and advocacy at Shelter Scotland.

We will try to direct our questions to specific witnesses where possible. If you would like to come in, please indicate that to the clerks. As usual, there is no need for you to operate your microphones. We will do that for you, so that is one less thing for you to think about as you are considering how to respond. I will start with some general opening questions, and then I will bring in my colleagues.

We have put this question to pretty much all the panels of witnesses. It has been six months since the Parliament agreed that there is a national housing emergency. In general, how would you assess local and national responses to the emergency so far?

I put that to Jennifer Kennedy and then Caroline Lochhead. It is probably a question for all of you to respond to, but you need only do so if you have something new and different to add to what has already been mentioned.