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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Under our final item, the committee will consider a negative instrument. As no one appears to have any comments, does the committee agree that we do not wish to make any recommendation on the regulations?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. We agreed previously to take the next items in private, so I close the public part of the meeting.

11:20 Meeting continued in private until 11:56.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

So, knowing when the housing emergency will be over is something that is in development.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Is that something that you could come back to the committee on?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. Mark Griffin MSP joins us online and we have received apologies from Fulton MacGregor MSP and Alexander Stewart MSP. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their electronic devices are on silent.

The first item on our agenda is to make a decision on whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is an evidence-taking session as part of our housing inquiry and scrutiny of the budget for 2025-26.

We are joined by Paul McLennan, the Minister for Housing, and Scottish Government officials. Kirsty Henderson is the affordable housing supply programme manager in the more homes division, Lauren McNamara is the interim director for the housing emergency, and Will Tyler-Greig is the deputy director of the more homes division. I welcome them to the meeting and invite the minister to make a brief opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that opening statement. In some ways, you have covered my opening question. It has been eight months since the Parliament declared a national emergency on housing. What progress do you think has been made in tackling the emergency? Can you go into a bit more detail?

I would also be interested to hear the figures on council allocations again. I might have misheard you: was it £15 billion or £15 million, £97 million and £4 million? Could you go over those again?

You said that you have expanded the board to include Shelter, Crisis, the Wheatley Group and one other name that I did not catch. We have been doing some work to look at smaller housing associations such as community and co-operative based ones. Did they have an opportunity to be on the board of housing to 2040? I do not have to hand the list of members.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

We will continue with funding and the affordable homes target. I bring in Meghan Gallacher.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

It seems to me that there is a communication issue. If Argyll and Bute Council is raising with us the issues that I mentioned and, as you say, things are happening, perhaps there is a need to join the dots or to let people know. Perhaps it is something to take to your next meeting with COSLA—I think that, in your opening statement or somewhere in your evidence so far, you said that you are going to have a meeting with housing chief executives.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

That would be really helpful, because the council has produced an impressive plan in response to its emergency. It has certainly not been sitting on its hands, and I am impressed with all the work that it has done to pull everyone together.