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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Meghan Gallacher

My colleague Graham Simpson has done a lot of work on this area of the bill. He has been speaking to student representatives and student boards, as I am sure other colleagues have throughout the process. We know about these issues and have done so for quite some time. It is not something new that has been brought to the table that individuals were not aware of. I understand that the review group sets its agenda, but, given that there is a housing bill, various parts of which relate directly to students, as was outlined in the stage 1 report, is Graham Simpson as frustrated as I am that, after this section is concluded, we will not know what amendments the minister is seeking to work with colleagues on ahead of stage 3? What does that mean for the recommendations that have already been clearly set out by the review group? Where does that leave students at the end of the day? Does Graham Simpson have any suggestions or thoughts on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Although I understand the minister’s position and, indeed, the Scottish Government’s position, it is certainly not one that I support in principle. I believe that rent controls will punish the private rented sector when we need all sectors of our housing market to work together to provide safe and secure homes for people during a housing emergency. That needs to be worked on collectively, and the Government needs to be aware that, should it bring in rent control measures, landlords could leave the sector.

In addition to the points that I raised in my opening remarks, I believe that the Government has not taken into consideration the fact that, when rent controls were introduced previously, people waited significantly longer to find a property. Should rent controls not work—I have my doubts that they will—other options must be looked at to ensure that we do not decimate a sector that has already suffered at the hands of knee-jerk policies from the Scottish Government. I ask the minister to look at ways that we can naturally reduce rents by increasing housing supply across all areas of the housing sector.

I will leave my comments there, convener, but I press amendment 85.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Given that the IFS has raised concerns about the Government’s strategy for tax, can the minister expand on when we can expect to see a full strategy for taxation in Scotland? How will that apply to the housing sector, which we are discussing today?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Similar to Graham Simpson, I do not intend to speak to every amendment in the group, because I know that time is becoming precious.

My amendment 132 is a probing amendment on the land and buildings transaction tax. Scotland’s budget for 2025-26, which was published in December 2024, announced an immediate increase in the surcharge in land and buildings transaction tax on the purchase of second and rental homes from 6 to 8 per cent. The Scottish Conservatives were opposed to that.

Interestingly, the Institute for Fiscal Studies has—rightly—stated:

“Despite the publication of a Tax Strategy alongside the Scottish Budget, it is not yet clear what the Scottish Government’s vision for tax policy is—but increases to LBTT are not consistent with any economically sensible strategy.”

We are in that position with various taxes, and it is imperative that the Scottish Government finally comes clean as to what its tax strategy is and what it will be in the future. That will allow us to make clear assessments on what its thinking is and what its objectives are.

Amendment 132 would modify the land and buildings transaction tax to change the number of dwellings from “one dwelling” to “two dwellings”, thereby altering transactions relating to third homes. That would act as a partial relief on LBTT for smaller home owners. My colleague Rachael Hamilton will expand on the arguments about LBTT, as she has lodged amendments 224 and 225.

11:45  

I want to pick up on the points that were raised by Ross Greer in relation to council tax. I agree with Graham Simpson that it is absurd that we use valuations from 1991. The committee has begun an inquiry on council tax, in which we have heard from various stakeholders and from the minister. However, not enough time has been afforded to the committee to undertake the inquiry or to reach a consensus on what the next stages of council tax reform would look like.

I understand why Ross Greer has lodged his amendments and he has articulated the points that he wishes to raise. However, the bill is not the correct mechanism to make those changes, given that it is such a wide-scale topic and that there are various different views on it, not just among political parties but among stakeholders and groups that would be impacted. A wider piece of work would need to be undertaken, not just by the committee—which we have already tried to do—but by the Scottish Government, which would need to decide whether to introduce legislation on council tax reform.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Does Rachael Hamilton agree that, with rent controls on top of such measures, it will tend to be smaller landlords who will leave the sector? In rural areas in particular, the measures will not allow people to utilise the homes for the local rural economy, which is very important.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Meghan Gallacher

We all accept that changes to homelessness prevention will have an impact on the provision of housing services and people who provide advice on homelessness. Jeremy Balfour and others have recently spoken about information sharing and the need for clarity from the Scottish Government on public bodies and how we begin to join up the system and streamline resource, not only in relation to homelessness data but so that any individual who is experiencing or is at risk of homelessness can share information and access any additional support networks that they might need.

In order to maintain that high-level and consistent service approach for anyone who is seeking help, advice or support when they are experiencing or at risk of homelessness, there needs to be a continuous professional development plan for key housing practitioners to ensure that they remain skilled and knowledgeable. I appreciate that housing services already have good training practices in place, and I am not attempting to patronise those who deliver them. However, the level of training that is needed when introducing the ask and act duties will expand throughout the many levels of public services, public bodies and person-facing services.

I have lodged amendment 1011 in order to probe the minister on how that training could be rolled out and whether it could take form in legislation or be followed up in guidance. I want to ensure that, when we introduce something new, such as the ask and act duties, the service is streamlined and all services are aware of what the duties mean for the person they are supporting who is experiencing homelessness.

I move amendment 1011.

09:15  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Meghan Gallacher

This discussion has been helpful in relation to what is required for the pilot schemes, how they will work, how much they will cost and what additional pressures will be placed on local authority areas. This is a prime example of why such work should be undertaken before we look at legislative processes and bills, because we do not know the answers to those questions. We are in the unknown sphere regarding how things will look, what the challenges will be and what potential problems will arise in the pilot schemes. That being said, the principle is noble and I understand why the Government is progressing in this way.

However, Mark Griffin raised valid concerns about the financial memorandum. I stress to the Government that it should be realistic regarding how much the bill’s provisions will cost. As a former councillor, the minister will know the cost pressures that councils are under and how much of an undertaking the provisions will be—not just for housing departments but for all the wraparound public services that also play a huge role in housing service delivery.

The point that Jeremy Balfour raised about post-legislative scrutiny is crucial. I welcome the minister’s commitment to come back to the committee with updates on the pilot schemes. That will need to happen across the board. I would welcome the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee having that opportunity, given the increased service expectations that there will be on all our councils up and down the country.

The convener is aware that I will not press amendment 1012 on behalf of Alexander Stewart. Graham Simpson raised the point that, although we are debating and voting on amendment 1012 today, we are relying on an amendment that we have not yet discussed fully or voted on in order to make changes. The minister needs to reflect on that, because that amendment might or might not pass, but we need to ensure that we have amendments of that nature so that we can scrutinise and make sure that what we implement will change homelessness prevention and have positive results.

Amendment 1012, by agreement, withdrawn.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Amendment 1012 would require the Scottish ministers to provide an update to the Parliament on progress to implement the duty to act within six months of the bill receiving royal assent. The update would include the financial cost to implement the duty to act and a timescale for the duty to act to be implemented. However, from the further discussions that I have subsequently had with the minister and with Alexander Stewart, although I will move the amendment, I am aware that there are further amendments coming down the line that would supersede it.

I move amendment 1012.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I welcome the minister’s response to my amendment.

I am still very concerned that there will not be consistency in the training that will be rolled out throughout public services or to people who deal with homelessness prevention on the front line. In introducing the ask and act duties, that training will be very important, because the duties will be brand new. A lot of public services will be working out how they will manoeuvre under the ask and act duties to ensure that they provide the best possible service to those who are at risk of or are experiencing homelessness. Therefore, there should be guidance from the Scottish Government on what it means and what it expects of public bodies in relation to the ask and act duties, and I welcome the opportunity to speak to the minister further about that before stage 3.

Amendment 1011, by agreement, withdrawn.

Amendment 1090 not moved.

Amendment 1046 moved—[Kevin Stewart].

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I have a question on the first part of your response. If someone presents at one public body and then needs support from another public service, how does that join up, and will they receive a consistent level of service?

My concern is that, if we do not have clear guidance and training rolled out in all the different services, people might receive a different level of service and will not be signposted to the place where they need to go for help and support.