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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 February 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Good morning. Before I move on to my questions regarding single building assessments, how many buildings could be contained in a single building assessment? That is important for transparency and making sure that we have the full picture.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I will pick up Evelyn Tweed’s initial line of questioning on the affordable homes target. The funding for that was reduced in previous years and although its level has now been reinstated, that is still a real-terms cut. I am looking for reassurance from you, cabinet secretary, that that will not happen in future years in order to give certainty to the market, particularly when you are trying to meet affordable house building targets.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I understand. The issue is about having certainty of funding, and I appreciate that you have talked about providing multiyear funding.

It has taken 18 years for the Government to elevate housing to a cabinet secretary post. We have got there—I am pleased that we have done so—but it should not have taken that long.

You mentioned investing up to £4.9 billion over the next four years. I refer to the report by CIH Scotland, Shelter Scotland and the SFHA, which says that you will need almost to double that amount—I think that you will need £8.2 billion as opposed to £4.9 billion—to invest in housing and to build the number of homes that are required in order to tackle the housing emergency overall.

Will the cabinet secretary review the target of 110,000 affordable homes by 2032 and update it to the 15,000 homes that is said will be needed each year? Are you looking into that? What is your response to the calls to double the investment from other housing spokespeople and charitable organisations?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I understand where the cabinet secretary is coming from. The national director of CIH Scotland has said that the

“£4.9 billion is a welcome demonstration of intent, but it fails to meet Scotland’s social and affordable housing need and resolve the housing emergency.”

Without investing more, is there a real risk that we will not be able to tackle the housing emergency? Is that work still the top priority of Government?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

That is helpful; thank you very much.

I would like to explore what qualifies as a high-risk building over 18m tall that should be remediated or demolished by 2019. I understand that there is a residential element, and I hope that the cabinet secretary can expand on that. I am certainly interested in other buildings that have cladding attached to them, such as hotels, hospitals, boarding schools, hostels and so on. I have tried in the past to gather an explanation or an answer from Government on whether those buildings will be included in the remediation work. Will the cabinet secretary confirm that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I accept that, but there is a problem with those particular building types. My concern is that Scotland has still not extended the ban on cladding in order to include such buildings. Is that actively being explored? When will we see an answer on that? For months, I have tried to get a direction from the Government on whether an extension or potential extension of the ban will include such buildings. Does the cabinet secretary agree that such an extension would bring us into line with what is happening in the rest of the United Kingdom?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

That is helpful, thank you. My next question is linked to cladding but also the proposed building safety levy. What is the estimate for the total amount of Scottish Government funding that would be required for evidence gathering, single building assessments, remediation work and future monitoring requirements, and what role would a potential levy play in that, if any?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Is that a cast-iron guarantee that the bill will come through before the end of this parliamentary session?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

What happens if the UK Government’s plan does not come in?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Thank you. That is helpful.

If witnesses will bear with me, I would like to expand on a point that Gillian Campbell raised in relation to landlords. We will hear from the Scottish Association of Landlords on our next panel. In its submission, it states that it has concerns regarding this particular proposal, because

“it will increase costs for landlords without delivering significant additional value”.

It also states:

“The energy efficiency of most properties will not materially change within five years”

and asks for a “more proportionate approach”, which would be to

“require a new EPC at the first letting”

following the minimum energy efficiency standard—MEES—compliance date and to

“retain the 10-year validity period thereafter”.

Does anyone have thoughts on those concerns or, indeed, alternative proposals?