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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 April 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Meghan Gallacher

Thank you. The reason why I am asking that question is that SNAP 2 is described as a “living action plan”. If SNAP 2 were included in a human rights bill, how would that work in an ever-changing environment? How would that fit into the scope of legislation that might go through the Parliament?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Meghan Gallacher

Thank you very much.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Meghan Gallacher

My question is on the issue that Maggie Chapman has raised about striking the right balance between the consumer and the legal profession. We have heard a lot about that this morning, but we have had no real explanation of how it is measured. We need the minister to explain that to the committee and the public. Will the minister summarise the reforms that the bill will bring in a way that will be easy for the public to understand? I am not sure that we are in that space yet, given the discussion that we have had this morning.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Meghan Gallacher

Minister, we heard from Esther Roberton last week. I am a little bit confused. Why, despite commissioning it, did the Government reject her report recommending a single legal regulator in Scotland?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Meghan Gallacher

The key phrase in that quotation was “many aspects”.

The Roberton report sets out the extremely complex landscape of Scotland’s legal services regulation, which can often be difficult for the public to understand. Why is the bill making it even more complicated for members of the public to understand?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Meghan Gallacher

No.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Meghan Gallacher

That does not echo the evidence that we have heard in the committee so far. Is it fair to say that, as the bill stands—we have not seen amendments thus far—you have managed to upset all sides of the debate surrounding legal regulation in Scotland?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Meghan Gallacher

How will striking the right balance be measured?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Meghan Gallacher

On the back of the discussions that we have had, I am struggling to understand. There seems to be a chicken-and-egg situation here. We have had to take evidence on a bill that will be substantially amended. Minister, why did you think that it was appropriate for ministers to be directly appointed as a legal regulator? Why has there not been more engagement regarding the amendments? As Paul O’Kane rightly said, the devil is in the detail, but the committee does not know that detail and it seems that senior professionals in the legal field do not know that detail. If you had concerns back in August, when you were getting evidence in response to the call for views, why did you not begin engagement then? I feel that we are clambering around trying to find a way to scrutinise legislation that we will have to look at all over again when we come back after the new year.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Meghan Gallacher

I go back to the first answer that you gave. Do you think that where we are now is far removed from where you started in terms of your review? If you were to give any advice to the Scottish ministers at this point, would it perhaps be to relook at the original principles that you outlined?