The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
Good morning. Clearly this is a meeting about finances and money, so I will stick firmly to the remit of talking about the money dimension. Alison Turnbull, you are in the company of three chief executives, but you are the director of external relations and partnerships. Is that right?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
You are not responsible, in the first instance, for the finances of HES, are you?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
Yes, and the chairman has resigned.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
I find that a bit strange, to be honest. If we are going to talk about money, the money person should really be sitting at the table. That is my view, which I have expressed.
You have already mentioned that the chief executive is off on long-term illness. We had her before the committee previously and we discussed the new financial model with her. It has just been announced that the chairman is leaving—he is leaving before his time is due.
I am going to refer to some press reports about HES that suggest that there seems to be some form of crisis in the organisation. “Toxic” working environments have been mentioned. What is going on in HES?
The most recent report I have here says that the Government has launched a probe into the internal controls of HES. This meeting is all about money, just to be absolutely clear. How much public money did you say you receive?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
In any organisation, internal control and culture around internal control is critical to the management of public money. What is happening inside HES?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
I am going to be very specific now, if I may. I have been approached by a number of whistleblowers and other people who have brought certain things to my attention. I have a list, but I will give you one example that causes me some concern about attitude, culture and internal control.
It has been brought to my attention by a number of people that on 11 August, one of the directors of HES had a dinner with a companion in the Queen Anne building at Edinburgh Castle. The Queen Anne building is a facility that is reserved for parties of up to 40 people and it can cost up to £12,000 to hire—I am not sure whether that includes the catering, but I think that maybe it does. Someone said to me that of that £12,000, £9,000 would come directly back into Historic Scotland. However, two people, a director and a companion, dined in that space alone, which apparently—this is why it has been brought to my attention—is very irregular.
When I read reports that the directors have the attitude—this is an allegation—that they
“walk around like they own our castles”,
and then people said to me that on 11 August, during the time of the tattoo, a director and a companion ate alone in that very prestigious and expensive room, alarm bells rang. You will understand that. A director is treating that property as if it is their own.
If I do a freedom of information request—I intend to do this, by the way; I am giving you advance notice—to discover the circumstances of that event in the Queen Anne building, what will I discover? I think that I might discover that they paid a token amount. Instead of £12,000, did they pay £50 or £100, or maybe nothing at all? Can you understand why I am concerned about internal control and the directors’ attitude towards managing the public finances when that sort of thing is brought to my attention?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
What are the three high-risk maintenance issues that you are looking at?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
There are lots of other questions that I could ask you, but time does not allow it.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
I have some more questions, if it is possible to ask them.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 September 2025
Stephen Kerr
You talk about needing an increase in funding and say that nothing has changed since 2008—in terms of value, you are on the same as you were on in 2008. What would it take?