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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 October 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

What about the effect of activists? There have been some pretty high-profile examples of major corporate sponsors of the arts in general withdrawing. Is that having an impact?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

We have had evidence from organisations that we would probably want to describe as beneficiaries of multiyear funding. They do not see it that way, however. They have said that the amount that they get is between 70 and 80 per cent of what they had asked for and what they would normally have budgeted for. That is all that they have got, however. The compensation factor supposedly lies in getting a multiyear arrangement, but organisations do not see it that way, and it is negatively impacting some organisations. Is that the feedback that you are getting?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

I am quoting directly from the evidence that we received from the Federation of Scottish Theatre. It said:

“Many of our members were funded to 70-80% of what they had applied for, having already only applied for what they saw as the essential funding required over the next three years.”

You do not recognise that as being based in—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

We have had other evidence to say that you have gone from sponsoring 119 organisations to sponsoring 251, with the suggestion being that, although you are funding more, you have spread everything so thinly now that there are a lot of dissatisfied people in comparison with the few that there were before.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

My last question is about the open fund for individuals. You have reduced the cap from £100,000 to £50,000. We had a lot of evidence last week about individual artists, in particular, being critical of how Creative Scotland is managing them. How do you manage to strike a balance between the large organisations that you are clearly supporting and the freelancers—the individual artists? They have been quite vocal in expressing their feelings about how you have dealt with them in the past 12 months, and now there is the cap on the open fund. The Scottish Artists Union has described the fund as

“an even more demoralising lottery for artists,”

with many applications rejected due to oversubscription. How do you balance those elements? It is clear that there are quite a few dissatisfied people, particularly at that end of the spectrum of those who receive support from Creative Scotland.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

I completely understand. I think that the matter bears strongly on that. The organisation gets in excess of £70 million. The concern that the cabinet secretary has raised, and which a number of us share, relates to a general sense that there is a malaise in the organisation, with some serious cultural issues that bear on the internal management and control of public funds, and on the way in which the body carries out its very important role—as has been described by the cabinet secretary.

To conclude on the issue concerning the episode that I have raised, cabinet secretary, do you expect to see a review and an outcome from that review, and will it have the necessary transparency, given the nature of the issue that I and others have raised?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

Oh, it very much is, because this is about the culture of an organisation that is in receipt of tens of millions of pounds—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

Good morning. Can you elaborate on what the threats are to the other sources of funding? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that you have had two years of increases in grant-in-aid money. Have I got that right?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

I take it that local authorities are saying to you that they are cash strapped and that you have more money. Do they actually say that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

It is.