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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is a very interesting observation.

May I throw seed potatoes at you as well? Scottish seed potato producers are in complete harmony with all the regulations that are required in order for them to have their products in the market in the EU, but the EU has, for some reason, refused to grant equivalence. What is going on there?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

So, when it comes to the ability of businesses to export into one another’s markets, those border controls ought to be manageable on the basis of the Windsor framework agreement, as you have said. I am just trying to think what the complexities are that are stopping us from smoothing out this SPS agreement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

The data on our meat exports to the EU and to the rest of the world is very encouraging. The value of the exports seems to have risen exponentially over the past couple of years. What has happened there?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

The volumes and value of fish being exported to the EU and to the rest of the world are similar to those of other goods, but we will probably need to talk about fish separately on another occasion, as there is no one here who can answer my fish questions.

Moving on to regulation and competitive advantage and disadvantage, I am not sure which of you will be able to answer this question, but one of the issues for Scottish farmers is that they do not necessarily have all the tools in their toolkit that farmers in the rest of the UK and in the EU might have the advantage of. I am thinking, in particular, of precision breeding and gene editing. Lucy, can you say anything about that? Would it be helpful if we were to give all the tools in the toolbag to our farmers, to allow them to compete on a level playing field and a profitable basis?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

There are some producer sectors, such as fishing, that are keen—the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation is very keen—that we should have divergence, because they feel that that would give them a competitive advantage. Would you like to comment on that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

That leaves us in a difficult position if we want to improve the SPS arrangements and smooth out the terms of trade. We are not implementing the agreement that we reached five years ago on border controls. Perhaps I can ask David Baldock this question: are we in breach of the agreement by not introducing border controls? Does that imperil our regulatory arrangements with the EU?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

No, we do not have a good negotiating position.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

And the EU’s price will almost certainly be regulatory lockstep and access to fishing waters.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is okay. Thank you.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

Despite the disruption that we have had with the pandemic, obviously, and our leaving the European Union and all the border checks and the paperwork, which we will come back to in a moment, that is a remarkable success story. What do you put it down to?