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Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
You mentioned CBAM. Obviously, that acronym is interesting in a Scottish context—I am thinking of “Parliamo Glasgow” and all that. As it currently stands, CBAM will not do anything for the chemical industry—it will destroy the chemical industry.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
That is okay. Everyone’s contributions have been helpful. I think that it is somewhat ironic that we will, in effect, be resorting to tariff measures to achieve our goal, given the global politics of the past 12 months—
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
Professor de Leeuw, you said that other countries have done low-cost electricity and you mentioned a couple of mechanisms in your previous answer. Can you describe what those countries have done to get to low-cost electricity quickly?
09:45Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
This has been a really interesting session. There seems to be a coalescing of views from our witnesses. Murdo Fraser’s comments on paper making resonated with me, as I spent my entire career working for a big company in the paper-making sector. Gradually, over the past few years, it has begun to withdraw from the UK for reasons that we have hit on time and time again this morning.
We are focused on scrutinising the draft climate change plan. You all seem to be saying the same thing. Just for my understanding, I want to ask you a simple question. Are you saying that, based on what you have said so far, the draft plan is lacking detail on how it would work, how much it would cost and who would pay for it? Those are fundamental elements. I put that to Paul de Leeuw.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
It does the what.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
The other elements are missing.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
That is a fair and clear comment. I was tempting you to be more explicit in what you thought should be included in the CCP, but I respect what you said.
Let us turn to ETS. As a policy, that will be elevated over the next period. There are already baked-in assumptions about the impact of ETS in the CCP, but there is expected acceleration—extension—of ETS beyond the current three sectors that are impacted by it, namely power generation, aviation and energy-intensive industry such as steel making, chemicals and cement manufacturing.
I will turn first to Richard Woolley because he began to talk about the issue when responding to my previous question. You said something about the impact of ETS on your sector. Will you elaborate on that?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
There is not a lot of time for any further consultation. I think that the consultation closes at the end of the month.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
David Thomson, is that a fair summary of what I have heard?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
I will come back to ETS, because that will be the thrust of my main question to all of you. However, first, I want to get a sense of where your evidence has led us to and to check that I have understood it. I will turn to Professor Turner, and ask her to give me her take on my summary.