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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 May 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

That seems to be the theme from you and from Anne Lyden—you want more operational flexibilities. We have not even approached with Historic Environment Scotland the issue of employment that we explored with Anne Lyden.

You mentioned the assets. Part of the problem over the past few years has been the fact that many of those attractions and assets have been closed, because they have been deemed to be unsafe. How much would it cost to address the backlog, make the assets safe for visitors and open them all? Some of us on the committee have received communication from within Historic Environment Scotland that suggests that that number is north of £800 million. Can you tell the committee how much it would actually cost to address the backlog?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

So that is preventing you from evolving and innovating.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

I presume that that is why the story on the front pages today is about the potential shutting down of whole assets. That is your only option, is it not? You have no flexibility on the workforce, which is one of your two biggest costs. As I understand it from reading the newspapers this morning and, of course, your written submission, your only alternative is to shut down wings and perhaps even whole assets.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Is that in the coming year?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Will you talk about that risk a bit more? In your written submission, you talk about the estate and, specifically, the immediate risk. You have put a cost against what needs to be done to mitigate the immediate risk that you have just described, which is £17.4 million. You do not have anything like £17.4 million to deal with that. Will you elaborate a bit on the nature of the risk? What are we actually talking about?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

So it is about structures.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Now.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

I hope that the witnesses will forgive me if I ask some basic questions. I am a new member of the committee, but I have a close interest in some of the things that you have been describing.

Is the additional £100 million of funding over the base of the previous financial year between now and 2028-29? I think that Anne Langley mentioned the £100 million. Have I got that right?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Robert Wilson is looking at me very intently.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Right. I am just interested to know how the statement that we have heard this morning about the review being about purpose only, and not including process, has come about. I completely understand that that is an issue that we can take up directly with the Scottish Government.

As you can probably already tell, I am interested in Creative Scotland’s internal processes. Clearly, last year threw up the example that I have already quoted of the £85,000 that was given to the production of what was going to be a porn movie—