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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

I will continue the line of questioning that Patrick Harvie has taken. The enforcement officers can enter and search vehicles, premises or stalls, but they cannot search individuals—that is what you think the balancing issue is. They can seize, conceal or destroy property deemed in breach of trading or advertising restrictions and, in certain circumstances, they can do all that with no warrant. That is what the bill says.

Let us go back to what the Scottish Human Rights Commission has said. It made the very good point that

“the bill does not set out limitations on how enforcement officers should ... determine ... suspicion”.

What is your interpretation of that? On what basis would an enforcement officer enter and search vehicles, premises and so on without a warrant?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

No, I am not suggesting that at all. I am suggesting that, when it comes to ticket touting, our having a single law that applies to all the territory of the United Kingdom would probably be much more efficient than our doing the legislation separately. I think that you would admit—and have admitted—that the touting provisions are quite limited.

I will move on—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

But they still would not have a warrant.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

But even a police officer must have a warrant. A police officer cannot just force—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

I am in the same place as the Scottish Human Rights Commission in that I am not sure that I really understand on what basis and how you would gauge the level of suspicion required in order to use those powers. What would the circumstances and the measurement be?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

The normal circumstances in which a police officer would enter a premises without a warrant are if they thought that there was a threat to life.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

Why are they specifically exempt from the touting provisions of the bill? That is simply them reselling their tickets, which is their property; a ticket to a match is their licence, as it were. That is how they trade. Why does the bill specifically say that officials and employees of UEFA—a huge multinational enterprise—are exempt from the ticket touting laws?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

There are many questions in a similar vein, but other members will probably want to come in.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

No, but I am just quoting from the letter.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Gaza

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Stephen Kerr

I thank the cabinet secretary for that thorough and honest reply. It is the case that we do not know where Scottish taxpayers’ money goes, but we do have to put some trust in the reputable organisations, such as those that you listed.