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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

I see that no member wants to speak, but I am duty bound to ask the Deputy First Minister whether he would like to wind up.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

Welcome back. Our next item of business is evidence taking on the overall impact of Covid-19 on children and young people. I welcome Jennifer King, education manager in Dundee City Council’s children and families service and chair of additional support needs/children and young people services for the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland; Laura Caven, chief officer in the children and young people team at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Mike Corbett, national official for Scotland at NASUWT; and Joan Tranent, chief social worker at Midlothian Council and deputy chair of the children and families standing committee of Social Work Scotland.

The witnesses are all joining us virtually. A hybrid meeting is always full of interesting challenges. Please feel free to indicate that you wish to speak. As you are not in the room, we will not always be able to see that you want to speak, so feel free to speak up. I thank you all for your time today.

We move to questions, the first of which comes from the deputy convener, Kaukab Stewart.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

Why are you not saying that those people on temporary contracts should be put on permanent contracts now? I think that that is exactly what the Scottish Government expects local authorities to do. As a union, surely the NASUWT should be pushing that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

You are really talking about resource allocation and focusing on priorities.

On page 36 of your evidence, you say:

“Despite the above restrictions, many carers noted that for some children removal of the pressures of managing school resulted in a reducing in stress and anxiety and an increase in engagement with learning via remote routes.”

That is very interesting observation. What lessons should we take from that experience for some children?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

Are you asking anyone in particular?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

That was more of a rhetorical contribution than a question. I think that Michael Marra has made his feelings on the matter clear.

I thank our witnesses—Jennifer King, Laura Caven, Mike Corbett and Joan Tranent—for their time, for the evidence that they have presented and for being so willing to say their piece. After all, we depend on that.

The public part of the meeting is at an end. I ask members to reconvene on Microsoft Teams to allow us to consider our final agenda items in private.

11:35 Meeting continued in private until 12:05.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

I will give you a break, but I will come back to you in a moment. Mike Corbett wants to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People and Deprivation (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

There is some kerfuffle at this end of the table because we have lost access to our colleagues who are here virtually. Therefore, once this question is finished, I am afraid that I will have to suspend the meeting until we can recover the technology. I am sorry for the distraction.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People and Deprivation (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

Yes. We can finish this exchange, and then we will suspend.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People and Deprivation (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

In our main item of business, the committee will take evidence on the impact of Covid-19 on children and young people from socioeconomically deprived backgrounds. We will hear evidence from John Dickie, who is the director of the Child Poverty Action Group in Scotland; Dr Colin Morrison, who is a co-director of the Children’s Parliament; and Satwat Rehman, who is the chief executive officer of One Parent Families Scotland. Satwat is joining us virtually, and John and Colin are present in the committee room.

It is nice to see you all. I thank all the witnesses for their time today. We will get the questions under way immediately. We hope to have you for at least an hour and a half, and perhaps a bit longer. We will see how it goes. Stephanie Callaghan will lead the questioning.