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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

I want to bring in Kate Wallace on the same topic. You have already intimated your strong feelings on this matter. Do you want to elaborate on them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

That sounds eminently sensible to me.

Does anyone else have a view on whether it would be helpful if there was a specific crime in law? I am looking to the industry representatives, Mike and Andrew, in particular. Welcome back, by the way, Andrew—we lost you for a bit there. Would it be helpful and useful in relation to the work that you are doing on safeguarding in the venues?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

What do staff do after they have noted that there is something suspicious going on, such as a pattern of buying shots or whatever?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

A typical venue would have a pretty open communication channel with the police on duty in the locality where it is situated. Is that correct?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

Before we conclude this evidence-taking session, I want to see whether my MSP colleagues at this round-table meeting have anything to add. I am conscious that Willie Rennie wanted to come in earlier, but we were unable to bring him in. I see that he has come back to his desk. Do you want to make the point that you were going to make earlier, Willie?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

I think that we have come to a very natural conclusion to this morning’s round-table discussion. I can speak only personally, but it has been really interesting and valuable to hear each of the witnesses talk about the issue from their perspective. It has been heartening to hear the degree of unanimity on the next steps and how different stakeholders can work together. We will watch with interest to see what happens next. A lot of what we have heard is greatly encouraging.

I thank Jill Stevenson, Ellen MacRae, Martha Williams, Mike Grieve, Superintendent Hilary Sloan, Andrew Green, Sally Mapstone and Kate Wallace for their time. Your contributions are very much appreciated and valued by the entire committee.

11:15 Meeting continued in private until 11:49.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

Does what you have heard from Andrew Green and Mike Grieve reinforce your confidence that the industry is taking this matter seriously?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

Let us not lose that point. I see that Kate Wallace wants to come back in, but I will bring in Stephanie Callaghan before her. Before that, however, I have a question for Ellen on the role of social media. You discussed the reputations of certain venues. How do you assess the impact of social media on this subject, specifically around the issue of reputation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

There was a comment earlier from Ellen MacRae, I think, about reporting. How would a victim—someone who has had such a thing perpetrated on them—normally report? Would they go to a hospital or to the venue? What is the typical reporting journey?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Drink and Needle Spiking

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

It is apt that we turn to Jill Stevenson, from the University of Stirling, who is also director of the Association of Managers of Student Services in Higher Education.