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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Redress Scheme

Meeting date: 12 January 2023

Stephen Kerr

Thank you, Deputy First Minister, for the way in which you are dealing with all this. You mentioned the letter that you sent on the anniversary of the first year of the scheme, and I imagine that you got quite a lot of feedback from those to whom you wrote. One of the people who received your letter said that they felt that it was tone deaf and that

“deliberations are taking so long that most will be dead before they are given payment”.

That is obviously an emotional response from a survivor.

I have heard very clearly that you put the delay in the process down to the nature of the applications. You described that there was a problem with the capacity to process applications. Am I right in saying that? Is that the basic summary of why it is taking so long?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Redress Scheme

Meeting date: 12 January 2023

Stephen Kerr

I appreciate how you are responding to the voice, as it were, of the survivor, because it is important that their voice is heard in the proceedings of the committee.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Redress Scheme

Meeting date: 12 January 2023

Stephen Kerr

Another survivor said in relation to the issue of support:

“It’s not acceptable for survivors to have to keep reliving their trauma because a public body can’t get their skates on and fix things.”

That is a reflection of the frustration that you have described.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Complaint

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Stephen Kerr

Thank you for having me on the committee. I have had experience of work in connection with public affairs, and I advise those who are watching and listening to go to my entry in the register of members’ interests if they wish to know the details.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Stephen Kerr

Jude makes an interesting point. I was struck by what Martin Crewe said about the four issues that he highlighted. Does anything in the bill do anything for the issues that you highlight?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Stephen Kerr

I have probably taken enough time, so I will stick with Vicky Irons for my last question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Stephen Kerr

You talk about resources. Resources, particularly money and time, are finite. Jude Currie, given the challenges that were outlined so eloquently by Martin Crewe, is it wise that we take up time and money to do something that is basically structural, that will be process heavy and that will create new and challenging interfaces, particularly in relation to children’s services, which will be a small part of an overall service?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Stephen Kerr

That is not what the Northern Alliance said. In its evidence, it stated:

“The main risk of locating children’s social work and social care in the National Care Service is that they will become a very small component of a large complex organisation which has a predominantly adult focus.”

That is diametrically the opposite of what you have just said.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Stephen Kerr

Is that an argument for including children’s services in the NCS or is it an argument for the status quo?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Stephen Kerr

Is it sensible to do it that way round? Is it sensible to do it in the way that ministers are doing it, rather than our understanding the implications of a national care service during the passage of the bill?