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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 November 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Thank you, convener.

My last question is to Sir Mark Jones. There have been a lot of whistleblowers, and I should declare an interest and make it clear with reference to my entry in the register of members’ interests that I passionately believe in the importance of a culture where people can speak up. However, it is interesting that some public comments, even from a trade union leader, have been disparaging towards people who have had the courage to speak up. I ask you to affirm, as the chair of HES, that you understand the importance of whistleblowers and that you have no negative view of people who feel that they have no internal recourse and who reach out to someone it is appropriate for them to speak to under the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998 to share their concerns with or ask to do something on their behalf. Will you affirm that you personally, and on behalf of the organisation, would actively encourage people to speak up?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

What was your part in initiating the inquiry? Did you have a role to play in any of this? Can you explain your role?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Okay. Sir Mark Jones, how many of the current board and how many of the senior management—no names—are currently suspended?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Sporting Events of National Interest

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Okay.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Good. Thank you very much.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

So, you and the board were saying to the Scottish Government, “We do not have an accountable officer. We understand the regulation and the requirement. We do not have one. Will you give us one?” Was that your request?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

All right. So, has there not been such a period?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Sporting Events of National Interest

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

The key thing that I am taking from your answers is that a different business model is not on the agenda at the minute, and something more grandiose is certainly not on the agenda. Collaboration across the football authorities in the United Kingdom and Ireland is not on the agenda either.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

There was an immediate investigation launched. Who did you say was conducting the investigation?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

It was an internal investigation and it has not reached any conclusions yet?