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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

Would it fit if we redesigned our vision of FE and HE more around the idea of—

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is almost a symptom, is it not? There is a deeper diagnosis here. I would like us to speak to some of the real issues that will hold us back as a country, because we are being held back. What are they? What are the root issues that we need to deal with from a political point of view to facilitate the velocity that we need—not just in the private sector where some things are happening, but in the public sector that supports the private sector, which is crucial?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yet, if we go back to Rachel Reeves’s speech yesterday morning at 11 Downing Street, our national productivity is now at crisis level and the public sector is a big part of the drag on that. I was really interested in what Peter Proud was saying about the NHS. What are the barriers that we, as politicians, need to remove in order to create velocity around these issues, given the productivity crisis and the great public need that is going unanswered?

Peter, you started us down that route. I think that the convener said that we were not going to go down that particular rabbit hole, but I feel that that aspect is crucial to this whole issue.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

Is that rooted in the risk aversion that we heard about earlier?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

From a business point of view, I understand that, but I have a concern that relates to that, because the AI that is adopted by SMEs will probably be open source based. The idea of creating a bespoke or customised tool will act as a barrier to the use of AI. Can you say a bit more about that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

But training courses and packaged off-the-shelf solutions will probably be more viable.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is the innovative mindset.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

That certainly requires more than £1 million.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

One of the biggest threats to our economy is our education system. Are we, as a country, in a position to be able to take the fullest possible advantage? Do our people have the skill sets to do that? What is your assessment? What must we do differently?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Stephen Kerr

Are you basically saying that we need more undergraduate degree-level apprenticeships?