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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That is a good example of the transition issue.

Do the witnesses agree that everyone who meets the Equality Act 2010 definition of a disability should automatically have a transition plan, or should there be an element of self-identification and an opt-out process? In previous answers, it was said that young people, for whatever reason, might not want to declare that they are disabled. The equality guidance states that,

“In the vast majority of cases”,

it will be evident that there is a disability. That will not always be the case, however, so there is a bit of wiggle room, is there not? It would be good to hear your opinions on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Okay. Will the bill make that a bit clearer, or will it not alter the process at all?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

It might be helpful to tell us about that, because that multi-agency work is complex and requires time. The teacher is at the heart of that, because they see the pupil regularly, whether that be for a single subject or for the whole day. How effective is that process at the moment? Is there scope to improve it through the bill? Other witnesses will definitely want to come in on that point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

You have highlighted that every young person has an individual journey. The reason why I asked about and explored the bill’s scope is that the number of young people who come under the definition will have a direct impact on resourcing, and that will have financial implications.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I think so.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thanks, Rebecca.

I will ask a final question, which relates to the scope of the bill. The financial memorandum to the bill suggests that around 4,000 school leavers a year would meet the current definition of “disabled”, which is around 8 per cent of school leavers from state schools. Is that a reasonable estimate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I suppose that I am looking to find out whether that is a reasonable number. Do you think that there will be a lot more people? Do you agree with that estimate?

Andy Miller, do you have anything to add? Feel free to shake your head.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I have listened with great interest to the perspectives of the witnesses. They have been very informative.

I will ask questions about whom the bill should cover and how young people should be identified. The bill bases whom it should cover on age and the definition of disability as stated in the Equality Act 2010. Do you think that that is proper? Will that cover everybody? Will that allow all young people to be identified, considering that not all of them will be in a system already? People can have a variety of needs, and some might not be in a system, if you know what I mean. There are challenges around that. I am interested in hearing how local authorities can identify children and young people who would be eligible without anybody falling through the net. I will start with Jenny Miller.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

You have had a good stab at it. Let us go to Andy Miller.