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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I invite the committee to delegate to me the publication of a short factual report on our deliberation on the affirmative SSI that we have considered today. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That completes our consideration of the affirmative instrument. I thank the cabinet secretary and her official for attending this morning.

That concludes the committee’s formal business in public this morning.

10:05 Meeting continued in private until 11:38.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Under our second agenda item, we will take evidence on an affirmative Scottish statutory instrument. I refer members to paper 1. I welcome to the meeting Shirley-Anne Somerville, Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, and Simon Stockwell, head of the family law policy unit of the Scottish Government.

I invite the cabinet secretary to speak to the instrument.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Good morning, and welcome to the 14th meeting in 2023, in session 6, of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received no apologies.

Our first agenda item is a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take in private item 4, which is consideration of our draft annual report, and item 5, which is discussion of our future work programme?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That would be great. Rachael Hamilton has indicated that she would like to come in. Before she does, I have a question that follows on from Pam Gosal’s questions.

Governments come and go, but the policies that they put in place can have far-reaching effects. Recently, we have been taking evidence on asylum seekers and refugees. Some of the organisations that have given the committee evidence on the Illegal Migration Bill have said that it would breach the human rights of asylum seekers and refugees. We have been looking at the tensions and the use of devolved powers to mitigate the perceived harms. How would what we are talking about fit into that context? Professor Boyle is nodding her head so I will take that as an indication that she wants to comment.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Dr Webster, do you have any ideas or thoughts about including the people whom Professor Miller referred to? They are often the most disenfranchised and furthest from communication systems, and so are difficult to reach. What have other countries done that we could learn from to ensure that those voices are at the heart of the participatory process?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Professor Boyle, what do you think are the challenges in the participatory process? For example, might there be areas of contention around certain rights? We do not need to go into those rights because my colleagues will explore them further later. I am thinking about areas such as health, housing and education, and what is realistically achievable.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Sorry—Professor Boyle has indicated that she wants to come in, so I will bring her in first.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That is helpful. I was thinking about the right to work, which not all asylum seekers and refugees have.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Dr Webster, you talked about the participatory process, and I would like to start off by discussing that a little bit further and drilling into it. It would be interesting to hear how you think the participatory process should be approached. I listened carefully to Professor Miller on the cross-cutting issues, including putting lived experience at the heart of all this. I come to you first, Professor Miller, and then I will bring in your colleagues.