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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thanks very much to all of you.

We have a range of questions from members. I will just advise our witnesses that, although you might well be tempted to stray into other areas, I must ask you to focus on the essence of the question that has been put. It would be helpful if you did that, as other members will come in on other areas.

To start us off, I call Meghan Gallacher.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

We now move to our fourth agenda item, which is our final evidence session on the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill at reconsideration stage. I welcome to the meeting Shirley-Anne Somerville, who is the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, and her officials. Liz Levy is unit head of children’s rights and the bill lead, Shona Spence is from the bill team and Rachel Nicholson—who is joining us remotely online, and has just popped up in front of me—is a lawyer in the Scottish Government’s legal directorate. Welcome, and thanks to you all.

I also welcome Martin Whitfield, who has joined us for this evidence session. I will, depending on the time, allow Martin to ask questions.

I refer members to papers 4 and 5, and I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you. Naeema, would you like to comment in 30 seconds as well?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That concludes our questions. I thank all our panellists. It has been a very interesting and enlightening session. I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow a changeover of witnesses.

10:59 Meeting suspended.  

11:03 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

We would welcome being kept informed about that. When you are in a position to issue timescales, please write to the committee and let us know.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That was helpful. The bill has been around for a long time and, as far as young people are concerned, I think that the good-will winds are, in a sense, behind it. Obviously, though, the committee has a duty to look underneath and work together on the detail.

On that note, I thank the cabinet secretary for her extensive contributions and her officials for appearing before the committee. That concludes this morning’s formal business, and I thank everyone again.

11:57 Meeting continued in private until 12:12.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

No problem. The main thrust of it is whether, through the bill, a citizen will be able to make a complaint in the least traumatising way possible. Will they manage to navigate the system, and what is the likelihood of their getting a clear outcome?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

It is not just a rebranding, is it? The bill has in it a proposal to extend the powers of the SLCC.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Please indicate if you wish to do so.

I will continue on the theme of whether the bill is achieving its objectives. I am interested in the complaints system. There are huge issues with the current system, and I want to know whether the bill addresses those. From the point of view of the average person on the street, the system is quite impenetrable already. I have heard from many people who have made representations about their complaints that not only is the system difficult to navigate but getting satisfaction from it is extremely difficult at the moment. Will the bill seek to address that? I am particularly interested in underrepresented and marginalised groups—people who are the poorest in society or who are from ethnic minorities, for instance. I direct the questions to Naeema Yaqoob Sajid and Brian Inkster.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a negative Scottish statutory instrument. I refer members to paper 1. Do members have any comments on the regulations?

As no member has indicated that they have any comments, is the committee content not to make any formal comments to the Parliament on the regulations?

Members indicated agreement.