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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Fulton MacGregor is attending online.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Rachel Wood has indicated that she would like to come in quickly, and then I will move on to Meghan Gallacher.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Is there anything else that members would like to cover? I will bring in Paul O’Kane, who might want to ask about the definition of “legal services” in section 6 being rather narrow. Have we covered that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I suppose that £60 is quite a lot of money to a lot of people. If we are trying to ensure that the law, in every aspect, is accessible to as many people as possible, there will be many people who would think that £60 is quite a lot of money.

I understand what Andrew Stevenson said about reducing vexatious complaints, and that has worked. I am considering the balance of risk. Will a £60 charge put off people who need to access the law? Is that risk worth taking? There is a balance to be struck.

You can come back on that one if you wish.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Are you ready to move on, Paul?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Is it on the back of Roddy Dunlop’s comments?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Do any of the witnesses wish to expand on the arguments that we have heard about the conflict of interests in professional bodies being regulators?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

How would the Law Society choose between its joint professional and regulatory interests when it comes to lobbying, for instance, or providing input to draft legislation?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you. I turn to the Faculty of Advocates, which also has concerns about the complaints system and the role of the SLCC. I give you a wee opportunity to talk about complaints and the SLCC’s role in that regard.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Are you content with that, Fulton? I got a thumbs-up there—that is great.

I will explore the issue of complaints. In previous witness sessions, we have heard a lot on that theme. The Law Society has said that the current complaints system

“is too slow, too rigid, too complex and increasingly expensive to operate.”

I go to either Rachel Wood or David Gordon. What are your suggestions to make it less expensive and more efficient? Does the bill cover that?