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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that, Clare. You are right to highlight the challenges that exist around intersectionality. On the other side of that is silo working, and many people have grappled for a long time with incorporating one and breaking down the other.

That brings us nicely to the area of accountability and I will bring in my colleague Maggie Chapman.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you, Clare.

Is Fulton MacGregor content with those responses? Would you like to come back in, Fulton? I see that he is content.

That concludes our formal business this morning. I thank all of our witnesses for joining us and for playing such a valuable part in our work as scrutineers. Once again, I thank them very much for their attendance. I hope that the rest of the day is enjoyable.

We will now move into private session.

11:07 Meeting continued in private until 11:39.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that, Heather. Thank you to all our witnesses for their opening statements. I will move straight on to questions.

The witnesses have given a general view of the budget. I have a question on funding as an opener. Colleagues will be probing much deeper and scrutinising things much further, so it is just a question to get us started. I would like your overall reaction to the Scottish Government’s funding allocations for equality, inclusion and human rights. I heard that they were broadly welcome, but we would be interested to hear any further opinion on that. I will start with Heather Williams first.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Good morning, and welcome to the third meeting of 2024 in session 6 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, which is fully virtual.

We have no apologies. I remind all participants that they must keep their cameras on. Our broadcasting colleagues will control your microphones, so you do not need to touch these at any point. Just watch for your mic icon to show you as being unmuted and then take a second before you speak. Thank you.

Agenda item 1 is to agree to take item 4, which is consideration of today’s budget evidence, in private. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you, Angela. I will bring in Heather Williams. If answers could be brief, that would be very helpful, as I am mindful of the time. We have a range of questions to get through, so I remind everyone that succinct and focused answers will enable us to cover the wide range of scrutiny that we wish to undertake this morning.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you. Paul, is there anything further that you would like to ask at this point?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

We will now look at the theme of participation, with Karen Adam.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you, Heather. We hear you. Thank you for making reference to the way that the committee engaged in citizen participation. We got excellent feedback from the citizens who took part. They felt more connected to the process. I hope that that could be rolled out across other committees. Thank you for acknowledging that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you, Heather. Would either Clare Gallagher or Angela O’Hagan like to come in on that one? They may wish to come in on my next question.

The committee intends to focus its pre-budget scrutiny of 2025-26 on transparency. What should our priorities be? What is paramount? I bring in Angela.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you very much for that extensive but very useful list. I will bring in Clare Gallagher.