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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Màiri McAllan

There are no hospitals within the low-emission zones, as far as we think off the top of our heads, but we can confirm that in writing with the committee.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Màiri McAllan

Absolutely, and it is always right that, as we continue to develop the obligations on Government or on our agencies, we consider that. However, as I said, we have spoken directly with SEPA about its existing budget and its ability to manage the additional requirements within that, and it has given us an assurance that it is able to do so.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Màiri McAllan

I have a note of the funding, convener, and I will try to put my hands on it. If any of my colleagues wanted to say anything while I did so, I would be grateful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Màiri McAllan

Convener, I know that your question was about ring fencing, in particular. The two pots of money in question come via the block grant, which is not ring fenced, and the money is supplemented by grants, some of which Andrew Taylor has just alluded to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Màiri McAllan

Absolutely. When we talk about schools, there are two things that occur to me. The first is the regulations from, I think, 2003 that allow local authorities to give fixed-penalty notices to any driver whose engine is idling when they have refused a reasonable request to switch it off. I will come back to that. Secondly, there are existing powers to allow local authorities to work with schools to prevent vehicles from being present in front of them. There are good examples of that in Edinburgh and Angus councils.

On the FPNs, I again come back to the point that the rules and laws are there, and they empower local authorities. It would be incorrect to impose my views or the Government’s views on local authorities as to how they operate that. You mentioned the question of whether they have the resources to do it but, in some ways, the operation of fixed-penalty notices could be a revenue-raising opportunity. I encourage local authorities to utilise the powers that are there.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Màiri McAllan

It is difficult to say. I do not think that I should espouse my view without understanding the position on vehicle idling in Perth and Kinross, to be honest. All I know is that—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Màiri McAllan

I do not have anything in front of me that tells me how often it is happening or how problematic it is there. However, I know that the powers are there and, as I say, I encourage local authorities to use them.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Màiri McAllan

On that last point, I want to be clear that, although we very much appreciate ESS’s recommendation and have considered it carefully, our view is that SEPA is the correct body to have that function and that the powers that are underpinned by the Environment Act 1995 already allow it to fulfil that role. I have pointed to the updated guidance, in which we have said, “Use this as a matter of course, not just where authorities are demonstrably failing and not just case by case.”

There is evidence of that happening. SEPA used some of the section 85 powers earlier this year, in issuing a warning letter to a local authority that had failed to submit its outstanding air quality annual progress reports, despite having been provided with extensions to do so. On receipt of the warning letter, a timescale for compliance was required, and that has now been met. That is a good example of how the powers are there and are being used. Where Government can, it will strengthen guidance to ensure that our expectations are clear about when and how often the powers are used.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Màiri McAllan

Yes, I am comfortable with 20 per cent. That has not been up for discussion as part of the development of the SI. If the Health and Safety Executive believes that 20 per cent is sufficient for it to get the kind of return that it needs, then I am comfortable with that. The point of the extension is that those checks will have to come after completion of the final registration deadline. Is that right, Dan?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Màiri McAllan

I do not anticipate any further extension to the timescales. I suppose that it is not impossible; however, I understand that a lot of resource is currently being arranged in DEFRA to make sure that it is done in the appropriate time. I expect that we will be back at some point to discuss substantive changes to the registration process because, of course, examining that is what the extension is required for.