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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

United Kingdom Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

I would not expect either of those things to come to pass. The reason why the extension is required just now is that the technical progress on an alternative has not reached a sufficient stage, as I understand it. I expect that the extension would focus the work on that technical alternative and give the time to develop it. That is our expectation anyway.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

I will hand over to Phil Raines, but the work is taking longer because monitoring is exceptionally difficult. This goes back to my point about emissions reduction numbers and the ability to measure emissions in megatonnes of carbon.

However, it is not as easy to measure adaptation. Phil Raines will correct me if I am wrong, but I think that the approach that has been taken to date to our adaptation programme is to assess the fulfilment of the policies that we have identified will contribute to adaptation. It is harder to have separate monitoring of adaptation as a whole, because it is so many different things in so many different circumstances. Phil, is there anything that you can add to that?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

We scan the horizon for EU developments in the environment. We have just been talking about water, which is a key example of that: the new water directive has come through and we have done what we can to comply with it. Ecocide is another issue, which I know you are close to. I have sought advice and my view is that, in taking forward the right to a healthy environment via the human rights bill, we should be able to achieve a great deal of what the development of an ecocide law might do. I do not turn my mind away from doing something on ecocide domestically but, for now, I feel that some of those objectives are being taken forward in the right to a healthy environment. That work is being led by the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

I assume that the letter from the minister was from Ms Slater, because she is leading on the biodiversity strategy and the overlap with the proposed natural environment bill. As I understand it, she will go out to consultation on that in the summer, which will be the first step to gathering the public view that you have, rightly, asked about. I understand that the consultation will be in two parts. One part will be on the draft biodiversity strategy and the delivery plan that you mentioned and the other part will be about some of the early proposals for the natural environment bill and our intention to legislate for nature recovery targets.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

That is the question for the strategy. I am not envisaging a change to legislation just now; I expect that it will be more a clarification of roles and a reinforcing of my expectation that, both before and after a flooding event, all agencies with responsibility work together and communities are really put at the heart of it. That is my objective.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

It is not something that I discuss regularly with the UK Government.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

I suppose that those measures are always in the toolkit. Right now, I do not foresee our having to do that. Our public water system is very resilient, thanks in large part to a great deal of investment that Scottish Water has made to provide resilience between areas. We have issued guidance, asking people to be very responsible about how they use the public water supply during periods of scarcity.

More vulnerable is the private water supply network in Scotland, with many supplies running dry right now. That is why we have made the bottled water scheme available very early. That is a way of dealing with it in the here and now, but we also have a longer piece of work on-going to see what would be required to connect those who remain on the private supply into the public network.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

I am not expecting a further full consultation. A great deal of work is being done to respond to a number of comments, most of which pertain to the energy aspects of the report rather than the just transition. Although Neil Gray and I are working jointly on that, the energy teams are principally engaged in responding to the comments on energy.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

We have two sets of costs, one of which goes out to 2030 and the other to 2045. The recent figures that I have seen are still in the same area as you set out.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Màiri McAllan

If you want to put your question on the record, I can make sure that the written update responds to it.