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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 October 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

Thank you for putting that colourful and helpful analogy on the public record. Having been a member of a community planning partnership for years, I will not say what animals I thought were accompanying me round that table.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

That is very helpful and reassuring.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

Professor Jones, from the Welsh perspective, is there a belief that the implementation in the Welsh context will aid sustainability? In the absence of that, were you seeing progress in that space anyway?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

Good morning to you, cabinet secretary, and to your officials.

What we are talking about today will be welcomed by our unpaid carers right across the country.

We know that carers are often very time poor and lead very stressful lives. The SCOSS report raised a number of issues where the operation of the regulations could be quite complex. What is the Scottish Government doing to ensure that carers are very clear about how to get the support that they are entitled to? That is particularly important when their circumstances change, so could you talk a little bit about that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

Do you believe that the legislation in Wales is able to help you to contribute effectively to the delivery of the United Nations sustainable development goals?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

Do you have any thoughts on why the Scottish Government decided not to pursue such legislation? Have you thought about how we could strengthen duties around the national performance framework and how public bodies can deliver on those goals through the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015? Do you have any sense of why the Scottish Government abandoned the plans?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

My final question is about the wellbeing aspect of the bill. We have talked a lot about the sustainability aspect, but, in the absence of legislation such as this, how can we ensure that we have due regard to wellbeing in the frameworks that we already have?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

I have a few more questions in that area. The bill says that public bodies “must ... have regard”—or, as it might be, “due regard”—to guidance produced by a future generations commissioner. Do you have any thoughts on how that duty might be exercised and how we ensure consistency in application?

I also have questions about the interaction with local strategy setting. I am thinking of, for example, community planning partnerships, which, although they are not legal entities, set a lot of the strategy locally. How would we ensure that they had due regard to wellbeing and sustainability even though, technically, they lack that legal status?

Professor Reid, do you want to start?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

Professor Jones, how are such things measured with public bodies in Wales? I assume that there must be guidance in Wales. Both of you have talked about an audit report on the matter, and I have concerns about Audit Scotland’s role in assessing whether public bodies have been paying “due regard” to the legislation as set out. Can you give us a wee bit of insight into the Welsh context?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Elena Whitham

Professor Reid, do you think that such legislation would help Scotland in our quest to be able to deliver on the UN sustainable development goals?