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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 November 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Elena Whitham

I wonder whether Fiona Collie has anything to add from a carer’s perspective. Leah, you touched on carers already, but I want to hear Carers Scotland’s perspective.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Elena Whitham

It helps to have on record the structural barriers that are in place across the country. That is why what is available in local areas is such a patchy picture. That gets to the heart of what Adam Stachura and others have said about the decisions on where to prioritise the spend. Do you look at the Scottish child payment as scaffolding infrastructure that is in place to help families at any point? Should we not look at that? How do we reduce spend in that area?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Elena Whitham

Leah Duncan-Karrim, how can we reduce the need for child payments? It seems that the only way that we could do that is by increasing parents’ employability options. How tricky is that?

The committee has previously done an inquiry into employability for parents across Scotland, and the picture is very patchy. How do we ensure that support is in place to reduce demand? How do we ensure that parents do not face a cliff edge when they move into work, particularly when they lose Scottish child payment eligibility?

10:15  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Elena Whitham

We have already touched massively on the theme of prioritisation approaches, which I was going to look at. I am interested in understanding how integration authorities can use a programme budgeting and margin analysis approach—we really delved into that last week—when they set their budgets at a local level, in the light of the resource pressures that are out there, obviously with the aim of progressive realisation over a period of preventative spend so that everybody gets to a space where they have good mental health and any acute issues are addressed quickly. Is that an approach that you recognise and that you would say needs to be followed in order to be transparent and to have the decisions that are taken understood by everyone, as opposed to just the firefighting and salami slicing that we are seeing at the moment?

10:15  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Elena Whitham

Okay. Finally from me, in that vein, where is the role for community planning partners in that space? If community planning partners are the ones that take in all of those different elements of our society, where is their role in setting the transformation agenda and driving forward the expectation as to how budgets are prioritised?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Elena Whitham

In that light, is there perhaps a need for a transformational reform-type budget to be made available to drive decision making from other places, levering money and resource from other places into making those tough decisions? If not, you will be trying to make decisions in an ever-reducing budgetary context, and that makes it really difficult.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Elena Whitham

Is there a risk that, in employing that approach, you could end up with a head-down look as opposed to a wider look across different silos and how decision making extends beyond the immediate decision for that particular budget?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Elena Whitham

I imagine that those reserves will be dwindling and that you need to carry them at a certain level to be able to operate in a fiscally responsible way. Going forward, is there a need for an injection of some type of moneys for reform to give that kind of headspace to be able to look strategically and lift your head up from the firefighting aspect?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Elena Whitham

I always wonder how we look above the silo that we are operating in. When I was COSLA’s community wellbeing spokesperson, I had responsibility for looking at rapid rehousing transition plans and getting 32 councils to look beyond homelessness being just at the door of housing departments. Obviously, Glasgow has a different situation with delegated powers, but how can we ensure that areas that are working in silos look at their responsibility for the mental health budget and at what they can do to help to deliver on the local strategy?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Elena Whitham

In 2016, the Scottish Government issued guidance that a prioritisation approach was the decision making process that should be utilised. If we think more widely, the survey of the integration authorities showed a stark picture as to how that is looking on the ground. In the absence of something as direct as a PBMA approach, how do we get our integration authorities to use prioritisation? Do you have any suggestions, considering the prevention agenda but also the big reform that is needed? How do you do that in the light of those things?