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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Agenda item 4 is consideration of a negative instrument. The background information is outlined in paper 3. The instrument was laid under the negative procedure, which means that its provisions will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul it. No motion to annul has been lodged. Do members have any comments on the regulations?

Members: No.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

As there are no comments, I invite the committee to agree that it does not wish to make any further recommendation in relation to the regulations.

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Good morning, and welcome to the 25th meeting in 2022 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, which we are running as a fully remote meeting—it feels like a long time since we have done that. I have my dog wrapped in a blanket beside me, so I hope that he stays quiet for the entire time.

We have received apologies from Miles Briggs and Foysol Choudhury. Our first item of business is a decision on taking business in private. Are we agreed to take item 5 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Pam, do you have any further questions? Members and the Auditor General have helpfully discussed quite a few questions that were coming down the line, so I want to check whether you want to come back in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Our second agenda item is another decision on taking business in private. Are we agreed to discuss our work programme in private at future meetings?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Programme

Meeting date: 3 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Agenda item 3 is our main item of business. On 15 September, we were due to hear from the Auditor General for Scotland about Audit Scotland’s report on the implementation of the social security programme and its annual audit report on Social Security Scotland. That session was postponed, and we have rescheduled the session.

I welcome Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General for Scotland, and Kirsty Ridd, the audit manager at Audit Scotland. We will be discussing themes around transparency and accountability, agile approaches, workforce, implementation costs, the remaining work and the key risks ahead of us.

Stephen and Kirsty, please wait a few seconds for broadcasting to turn on your microphones before answering questions. I ask members to direct their questions to Stephen, who will bring in Kirsty as needed.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Elena Whitham

Our next item of business is an evidence session on budget savings and reductions in 2022-23. On 7 September, John Swinney announced £500 million of in-year reductions to the budget, and some of those are relevant to our remit—namely, employability, education maintenance allowance, concessionary fares and rail fares, and child poverty consequentials.

I welcome to the meeting the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Covid Recovery, John Swinney, who is also covering the finance brief at the moment, and his officials, Julie Humphreys, deputy director of tackling child poverty and financial wellbeing at the Scottish Government, and Michael Walker, senior finance business partner at the Scottish Government.

I hand over to the Deputy First Minister to make an opening statement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Elena Whitham

I turn to members for questions. We have grouped questions into themes of employability, education maintenance allowance, concessionary fares and transport costs, and cost of living consequentials and child poverty. Members, as ever, will also have their own questions, which I will bring them in on towards the end. To start, members should direct their questions to the Deputy First Minister, who will bring in his officials when he decides to.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you, Deputy First Minister. That clarifies the point for us all.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Elena Whitham

Who is that for?