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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Good morning, and welcome to the 27th meeting in 2022 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee.

Our main item of business is consideration of a draft statutory instrument. The Scottish Government advises that the draft regulations will make changes to the best start foods regulations, best start grant regulations and Scottish child payment regulations, which set out the rules and eligibility criteria for best start foods, the best start grant and the Scottish child payment.

I welcome Ben Macpherson MSP, the Minister for Social Security and Local Government, who joins us remotely, and his officials, who also join us remotely. We have Nicola Birrell, who is best start grant and best start foods policy manager with the Scottish Government; Karen Clyde, who is a solicitor with the Scottish Government; Janet Richardson, who is deputy director for client services delivery with Social Security Scotland; and Merlin Kemp, who is the Scottish child payment team leader at the Scottish Government.

The instrument has been laid under affirmative procedure, which means that Parliament must approve it before it comes into force. Following this evidence session, under the next agenda item the committee will be invited to consider a motion to approve the instrument. I remind everyone that the officials can speak during this agenda item but not in the debate that follows.

I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you very much for your statement, minister. We will move to questions. As always, we will direct our questions to you, but you can bring in your officials when you want to.

The first questions are from my colleague Jeremy Balfour.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Do members want to make any contributions?

10:00  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Absolutely.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

I have a small comment about an issue that we must recognise is significant—the expansion with regard to kinship care. The committee has heard directly from the fantastic people across Scotland who deliver such care. The regulations seek to make their lives, and the lives of the children they look after, that much better.

I invite the minister to sum up the debate and to respond to the points that have been made.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

We move to agenda item 2, which is formal consideration of motion S6M-05966, which calls on the committee to recommend approval of the Social Security (Miscellaneous Amendment and Transitional Provision) (Scotland) Regulations 2022. I remind everybody that only the minister and members may speak during the debate. I invite the minister to speak to and move the motion.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

The committee will report on the outcome of its consideration of the regulations in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to approve a draft of the report for publication. Is that agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

I thank the minister and his officials for joining us, despite Covid, to ensure that we can get the regulations in front of Parliament as soon as possible.

The committee will now move into private session to consider its draft pre-budget scrutiny 2023-24 report.

10:09 Meeting continued in private until 11:14.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you both very much for explaining that to us.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Rent Freeze and Evictions Moratorium

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Elena Whitham

I welcome you and your officials to the meeting, minister. I will start with the question that I asked the first panel. As the convener of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, I have always been keenly aware of the fact that we do not always have a gendered analysis and disaggregated data, specifically on issues around poverty, inequality and the housing sector in its totality.

We know that those in the most extreme poverty are disproportionately women, lone parents, people from black and minority ethnic backgrounds and those who are disabled, and the intention of this policy is to act swiftly to assist people in that situation. How do we monitor both the policy intention and the policy outcome? That is not always captured, and we see that as a gap.

As for the measures that are in place to support the policy—the extension to the tenant grant fund, the extension to how discretionary housing payments can be used and the Scottish welfare fund, which councils administer—how can we ensure that we collect the data on who is accessing those measures, how the decisions are made and what impact they have?