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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Elena Whitham

Thanks for that question. The Government was very aware of CPAG’s response during the consultation process.

The United Kingdom Government’s Welfare Reform Act 2012 abolished council tax benefit, removing council tax support from the benefit system. In response, the Scottish Government introduced the council tax reduction scheme, which creates a schedule of means-tested reductions to an individual’s council tax liability. It is important to point out that council tax reduction is not a benefit and is not administered by Social Security Scotland, which is what the social security chamber deals with. Rather, council tax reduction reduces applicants’ liability for council tax. It was a policy decision that all appeals relating to council tax, including council tax reduction, should be heard by the local taxation chamber, as they are issues that relate to local taxation.

In drawing up the regulations, Government officials were mindful of the complexities around council tax reduction and about the people who may be bringing cases to the local taxation chamber. The officials may want to elaborate a little bit on that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Elena Whitham

Thank you for that further probing question, which requires a good answer.

Several existing members will be transferring to the local taxation chamber and they will carry their really good working knowledge with them. There is a thorough training package in place for any new members of a chamber, regardless of which chamber it might be.

We will ensure that people who are appointed to the chamber understand the very issue that you have raised in relation to dealing with the complexities of such cases, in which an element of discretion and understanding might be needed to ensure that people can access the justice that they are looking for.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Elena Whitham

It is important that we recognise that the chamber will not be dealing with anybody’s underlying entitlement to anything. However, the signposting element of anybody’s work is really important. I might need to come back to the committee with a fuller answer on that point, but I have definitely heard what you and Pam Duncan-Glancy have said in that regard.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Elena Whitham

Thank you, convener, and good morning, members.

This suite of three sets of regulations will transfer all the functions of the valuation appeals committee and certain functions of the Lands Tribunal for Scotland to the Scottish tribunals, and will set out the composition of those tribunals when they are exercising the transferred functions.

The Tribunals (Scotland) Act 2014 created a new simplified statutory framework for tribunals in Scotland by establishing the Scottish tribunals, consisting of the First-tier Tribunal for Scotland and the Upper Tribunal for Scotland. That framework brings the range of existing tribunal jurisdictions together into one system and provides a structure for new jurisdictions coming in.

The valuation appeals committee and some limited functions of the Lands Tribunal for Scotland are due to be transferred to the Scottish tribunals on 1 April 2023. The draft First-tier Tribunal for Scotland (Transfer of Functions of Valuation Appeals Committees) Regulations 2023 provide for the transfer of the existing functions of the valuation appeals committees to the First-tier Tribunal for Scotland local taxation chamber. Existing members of the valuation appeals committees will not transfer to the Scottish tribunals; instead, members have been appointed through a fair and open recruitment process that was undertaken by the Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland.

In addition, the regulations make provision for cases that are in progress on the date of transfer, and they make amendments to primary and secondary legislation that are necessary as a consequence of the transfer of the functions.

The second instrument is the draft Upper Tribunal for Scotland (Transfer of Valuation for Rating Appeal Functions of the Lands Tribunal for Scotland) Regulations 2023. Currently, appeals in relation to non-domestic rates cases can, in certain circumstances, be referred from a valuation appeals committee to the Lands Tribunal for Scotland. Such circumstances have included cases in which the facts were particularly complex, the law was particularly difficult to apply or the property in relation to the valuation that was being appealed straddled two valuation areas. A decision by a valuation appeals committee not to refer a case to the Lands Tribunal for Scotland can also be appealed to the Lands Tribunal for Scotland.

Upon transfer of those matters to the Scottish tribunals, a referral system similar to the current one will be retained, but with qualifying cases being referred to the Upper Tribunal. That will ensure that complex or significant cases can be considered by a body with additional expertise and that the matters are dealt with entirely within the Scottish tribunals system. Parties will also be able to pursue an appeal to the Upper Tribunal if they disagree with a decision of the First-tier Tribunal not to refer such a case.

Finally, the draft First-tier Tribunal for Scotland Local Taxation Chamber and Upper Tribunal for Scotland (Composition) Regulations 2023 specify the number and types of members—for example, judicial, legal or ordinary—of the local taxation chamber of the First-tier Tribunal who are required in relation to the different appeals before that body. Likewise, the regulations set out the membership of the Upper Tribunal when it considers appeals or referrals from the First-tier Tribunal. I understand that the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee considered the regulations on 20 December 2022 and raised no points on them.

The functions of another body, the Council Tax Reduction Review Panel, are also due to be transferred to the First-tier Tribunal, to take effect at the same time. That transfer is provided for in a separate set of regulations, which I know will be considered by the committee at a later meeting.

I would be happy to answer any questions, and my officials are also here to help.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you, convener, and good morning to you and fellow members. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to the committee about the draft Legal Aid and Advice and Assistance (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2023.

The regulations have been introduced to deliver changes to legal aid regulations, and primarily to ensure continuing access to justice for vulnerable people in our society. My first point is that they will do that by supporting the response to the cost of living crisis through enabling the Scottish Legal Aid Board to disregard for means assessment additional state benefit payments that have been made in recognition of the increased economic hardship that is currently being suffered by households that are reliant on social security support. If the regulations are not approved, the Scottish Legal Aid Board will be unable to disregard such payments across all aid types. That will mean that, for example, additional money that is paid to recipients of disability benefits could form part of an assessment, should publicly funded legal assistance be sought.

Secondly, the regulations will enable the Scottish Legal Aid Board to disregard for means assessments compensatory awards made by the state arising from a person receiving contaminated blood or blood products from the national health service prior to September 1991. Again, those payments by the state, which recognise a wrong against a person, can be disregarded for all types of legal aid only if the regulations are approved.

Finally, the regulations will also extend the provision of a type of legal aid that is known as assistance by way of representation—ABWOR—so that it may be available to siblings of a child who is subject to children’s hearings proceedings and who either have or are seeking rights to participate in those proceedings. Under the current legislation, ABWOR provision is available only to a child who is subject to the proceedings, relevant persons or a person seeking to be deemed a relevant person in relation to that child.

The availability of ABWOR to siblings will not be means tested and subject to an effective participation test that is approved by the Scottish Legal Aid Board. That recognises that, although the role of siblings in the children’s hearings system is important, it is limited, and other procedural safeguards are in place that can facilitate regard being had to their views.

That is a brief overview of the regulations and their context. I am happy to answer any questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

I have a couple of questions about changes to the linking period. Did issues arise about how it was working in practice that made those changes necessary? In what circumstances would there be a long delay between a client losing entitlement and Social Security Scotland deciding to stop the Scottish child payment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you, minister. We will move on to questions from Emma Roddick, to be followed by Pam Duncan-Glancy.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Any further information that the committee could get on that would be appreciated, minister.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Our final questions are from Foysol Choudhury, who joins us remotely.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

We will now do the formal part. The question is, that motion S6M-05966, in the name of Ben Macpherson, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to,

That the Social Justice and Social Security Committee recommends that the Social Security (Miscellaneous Amendment and Transitional Provision) (Scotland) Regulations 2022 [draft] be approved.