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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

Thanks for allowing me to come back in, convener.

Bill Scott made a really important point about scrutiny really making a change in that area. I really appreciate that.

I go back to Ross Greer’s point about practice. For example, we heard about a wee boy who wanted to be a pilot. He was taken along to the airport, and he was as interested in the baggage as much as he was in anything else, so he ended up with a job in the baggage department. Will the bill really be the thing that changes practice? Would that happen for other wee boys? Would it change things for them? That is the nitty-gritty of the issue.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

Thank you for being here this morning, Pam. It is great that you have been highlighting this stuff.

What you said about your mum saying, “Now I can be a mum again,” was really quite powerful. That is so important. You mentioned the legislative salad and the fact that none of the legislation is delivering what needs to be delivered. Having guidance, strategies and duties is absolutely fine, but the issue comes down to relationships, advocacy and people feeling that they have agency.

We have heard from young people and families—this has been mentioned in the evidence that has been submitted to us, too—that professionals will often identify “positive destinations” for them but that those do not always reflect the aspirations and interests of young people or the things that matter to them and their families. We have also heard about data and control and about young people wanting to own their own story, to have that agency and control, and to have choices around sharing their data.

I am interested in two specific issues. First, how will the bill bring an approach that is centred around the young person and their aspirations? Secondly, how will it improve their outcomes?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

What direct impact would a cut in teacher numbers have on closing the attainment gap?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

It is great when people are aware of the fund and they are putting in applications to get that funding, but the spread of awareness seems to be quite uneven. There are people who do not know about it and others who do. Are we getting the balance right, or should the fund be broadened out? Should we look at making it available to everyone? I know that anyone can apply for it just now, but I am talking about whether everybody should have access to it almost automatically.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

I just want to pick up on something that you guys were talking about. In the evidence that we have taken, we have heard quite a lot about the fact that, where there has been a transition lead, say, or someone working with families the whole way through the process who has been able to build long-term relationships and trust, that has made all the difference, because they have been able to reach out to all the other organisations and pull everything together. You are welcome to comment on that view, but do you think that the bill takes us any further forward in that respect or provides the potential to resolve that issue?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

Can I just check a point, so that I am clear? Is the issue that what matters to the individual needs to be central to the plan but it is missing?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

That is perfect.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

This touches on what you just said. You spoke earlier about the need for a co-ordinator if the young person is not in school. You also spoke about families having a choice of who leads and you mentioned churches and other supports. I want to be clear about that. Should the lead or co-ordinator for families come in with a light touch, just to make sure that everything is going okay? Should that person get more involved if the family needs further support? I would like clarity on that, because I am a wee bit worried about family choice. I do not think that you were saying that families do not need support.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

Cabinet secretary, you already touched on this point in your response to Ruth Maguire. I am going to roll what I want to ask into one question because I am mindful of the time. We are all clear that narrowing the poverty-related attainment gap is a key education priority. Will you outline the role that teachers play in narrowing that gap? Are we seeing results from investing in teacher numbers? Finally, what impact will cutting teacher numbers have?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephanie Callaghan

Thank you, minister.