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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

You spoke earlier about how victim impact statements might have a disproportionate impact on panel members. Surely that would also give the panel the fullest possible information and the fullest possible understanding of all the facts and of the matter in its entirety.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Thanks, everyone, for joining us. We have already heard a bit about tolerable risk. Phil Diamond spoke about the fact that probably 60 per cent of the 7,000 buildings that are in scope in Scotland fall into that category.

My question is directed at Jim McGonigal, first. We have heard about the calls for the bill and associated guidance to better reflect the idea of tolerable risk rather than just high risk, and that measures could include the use of alternatives to cladding replacement that have similar fire safety benefits. Would you support that approach, Jim, and how might it work in practice? I am happy for anyone else to come in after that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

That is really helpful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

You said that people do not need to have that qualification, so my question was also about how you identify who has those skills. Maybe that question could get rolled in as we go on.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Do you have anything to add to that, John Marr? Do any of the other panel members have different views? If you do, I would be interested to hear them.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

I have only one more question, actually, convener.

In its written evidence, the Law Society was keen for greater detail to be included in the bill on the responsible developers scheme and on the cladding assurance register. Do you want to say a bit more on that? Do you have any comments on risks? Are there any recommendations that you would like the committee to make to the Government, for example?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

I am the MSP for the Uddingston and Bellshill constituency in Lanarkshire.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Gary Strong, on the point that you just made that people have to be competent to do that work, how would you go about defining competence if someone does not have that qualification? You have not had many people applying for the course. Would it be better to target the course at the type of people who have been most interested in it?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Do you have any concerns about the costs and timescales for remediation work?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Stephanie Callaghan

Do you have any reflections on some of the comments that were made by the earlier panel on having flexibility and using secondary legislation rather than having to go back and change primary legislation?