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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 November 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

It is more a question for the cabinet secretary, to be honest.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I am going to throw a spanner in the works, for which I apologise in advance. I absolutely get the need for us to collaborate and to work with nature and all the rest of it, but I come back to Kate Forbes’s earlier question about conflicts. Those conflicts absolutely exist. Recently, I visited an arable farm where the flood banks have been undermined by beavers and have blown out. Now, there are 30 acres of arable land that was organic and is sitting with silt lying over the top of it. It will cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to reinstate those flood banks. Those kinds of conflicts have to be accepted. We need to work out how we are going to get round those compromises. It is all very well for us to sit round the table at committee saying, “Yes, we will come to solutions,” but, if we are going to take farmers with us, those who have been affected are not listening. All they can see is that huge acreages of their land are going under water and silt.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I think that I am correct in saying that Scotland gets about 17 per cent of the agriculture budget. Do you have any indication of whether that level of funding will continue to come to Scotland at that percentage rate, or is there a need for that to increase, too?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Okay. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

My apologies, convener. My understanding is that tier 1 and tier 2 might well get the vast majority of the funding, but additional conditionality will be added to that, which will pave the way for tiers 3 and 4 to be able to do their work. If I am wrong—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

How much does it need to be to get to net zero?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

You are absolutely right in everything that you say.

Pete Ritchie, I know that you have done extensive work on the matter. How do we make those higher costs that are part of producing the kind of food that we want to produce affordable for the people who want to buy it?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

You talked about the issue of long-term investment in relation to companies locating in Scotland. Do you agree that that will require a critical mass to ensure that long-term production stays in place?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a minor point. We have been talking about how we define the terms in the bill. I was looking recently at the Hill Farming Act 1946 in order to discover things about muirburn. The 1946 act prescribed that only specific types of tups could be used, as defined by the minister. How many ministers know what a good hill tup looks like and what its function should be? There is a danger that if we are very prescriptive, we will send farming in a particular direction. We surely have to look at something that allows ministers to let the industry develop the objectives in the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

You said that food security is a public good. My understanding has always been that food production and food security have never been regarded as a public good on the basis of public support.