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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
I take your point about calves, but what effect would shooting male deer out of season or at any time of the year have on calves? Is your specific point not so much about close seasons or open seasons as about this not being good for animal welfare overall?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
I understand the member’s point, but only one control order has been brought into place since 1996.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
First, I presume that you are talking about—I do not know how we should address one another in this committee, convener, so I apologise if it was wrong to say “you”. I presume that the member is talking about the press release relating to advice in 2023.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
That related to 2023.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
If we are talking about the same thing, it was a press release that was put out about guidance or advice that was given to ministers in 2023. I was not the minister then; I am a different minister, and this is a different Government.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
No, it doesn’t.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
We are content that we are compliant with the requirements of the law as it currently stands. I should also make the point that the protection of property rights under protocol 1 of article 1 of the European convention on human rights is not absolute. However, I am content that we are more than covered with regard to the information that you are talking about, which came out in the press release.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
The whole point of this is that we are still looking for voluntary agreements when there is an intervention to be made. It is about going through the whole process before we get to an enforcement order, which is what I presume that you are asking about.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
Yes, I am.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
I absolutely accept stakeholders’ concerns on the issue, but let us be absolutely clear: such an intervention will happen only after NatureScot has gone through a considerable period of asking for voluntary agreements to get to a collective agreement. The role of deer management groups will be very important, but when a specific and targeted plan is being introduced on a piece of land or an estate and a very high density of deer is preventing the development, restoration or whatever it is from being done on the piece of land, then, yes, it is appropriate to ask the neighbours to play their part. The intervention will come in when a neighbour simply refuses to take part in the conversation.
We need to get to a position at which deer numbers come down to allow the peatland or forestry restoration, or whatever is in the specific plan that has been laid out, to happen. The plan cannot just be someone saying, “I want to rewild that.” The action must be part of a particular plan, such as a biodiversity or climate plan—we have a range of plans in place—that is set out, that is deliverable and that people have been consulted on. It is reasonable to ask people to get deer numbers down to allow the specific restoration event to happen.
That does not mean that those deer numbers cannot go back up. I absolutely accept how some people feel, and I have heard the phrase, “We’ll be shooting ourselves out of a job.” However, I do not believe that that will be the case. We have massive numbers of deer. Edward Mountain spoke earlier about deer having to come down from the hill to get the better grass at the bottom of the road. There is scope to allow us to ensure that we can require a landowner to cut their deer numbers to allow a particular piece of work to happen.
Mr Ruskell asks us to go even further and not to even have voluntary engagement. I think that the current provision is absolutely reasonable, because we have a very high deer population. I take the point that was made this morning that we have a national vision and a local vision, and I understand all that, but, if something needs to happen in a local area, then, yes, an intervention is appropriate. That does not mean that the population of deer would necessarily have to be the same in five or 10 years.