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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
You have committed to doing that.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
That is the important bit.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
In the past, local authorities have been given funding and they have used it exactly how they would want it to be used. East Ayrshire is the most obvious example, but I had better not forget my colleague Jenni Minto’s Argyll: she is very proud of the fact that Argyll and Bute Council is doing so well. Will the Government provide something that says how the plans need to be set out? Public authorities have been given money before and have not done it, so how do we ensure that they do it this time and make it happen?
We heard in evidence that it will be far harder for people in Glasgow to set out a plan that will get them up to standard than it will be for people somewhere such as rural Perthshire. I presume that the Government will have some way of saying what it requires authorities to do. Is that correct?
09:45Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
As you have pointed out, cabinet secretary, there is, in all the vast amounts of evidence that we have taken, no fixed view on whether there should be an oversight board. In fact, views are very much mixed. On 3 November, George Burgess said that the Government could look at the matter again, and you have just committed to doing that in light of the Bute house agreement. However, would it not be preferable for Parliament to be the scrutinising body instead of—dare I say it?—an unelected quango that would be established at huge cost to the public purse to have oversight of something so fundamental to Scotland’s future good food plans?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 23 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
I take the point about flexibility, but I emphasise the fact that we have to get local authorities to implement the measure.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
The point about whether we use targets or outcomes is really interesting. When East Ayrshire Council started on its journey and employed the hungry for success programme, I remember very clearly that it went all out to ensure that it did all the things to meet the gold standard. I know that Argyll and Bute Council did the same, but other local authorities chose not to go down the same road. Are our current food procurement practices a hindrance? Does the national plan need to ensure that local authorities employ their own local plan so that there is take-up and it is not really voluntary, if that makes sense? I might not be being clear in what I am saying. I will come to Mark Hunter first.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
I understand that it is difficult for a small producer to go to a local authority. Do the current public procurement practices allow for SMEs and smaller producers to be brought in? Should the national plan say that local authorities must have such engagement to provide the good food nation objectives?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
In an ideal world, more fruit and vegetables would be grown in Glasgow so that the supply chain could be shortened. NPF4 would then become important.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
Yes. In effect, you had very restricted powers with a bigger pot of money and now you have much more powers with a restricted pot of money.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 9 February 2022
Jim Fairlie
I want to go back to what Rachael Hamilton talked about, and the aspiration. I remember from my early years of involvement in the issue that public procurement used to be about pence per unit. Now, it is about value for every pound that is spent, as opposed to being based on the price. What we are trying to do is a big thing. It is a cultural shift, and I am pretty sure that at the moment the bill has provisions for a review after two years. Given the number of local authorities across the country and the diversity in where they are starting from, is two years long enough for us to be able to start on the road, get it implemented, look at the situation and see what changes we need to make to take things further?