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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
Two weeks ago, I sat at the committee to discuss an SSI, and the NFU pushed back to say, “You’re going far too fast and far too strong. Stop; slow down.” On the other hand, I have people telling me, “You’re not going nearly fast enough”. We are doing this in a way that is measured and controlled, and we are allowing people the time and space to understand what is coming down the road.
This SSI is about protecting a scheme that we know works. If we pass the SSI, we can park it and focus on the other things that we have to deal with. I completely disagree with the points that you are making. If there is frustration, I understand that people want more support to go into different areas, which we are looking at. The SSI is about protecting a scheme that is working, as far as I am concerned.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
You say that the reason why it was decided to scrap the scheme down south was because there are better ways of doing it. Where are the better ways of doing it? Where was the offer to introduce a similar UK-wide scheme that would allow the same level of support, funding and innovation? There is not one—there is nothing there. Yes, we are keeping an old scheme, because we know that it works.
You say that stakeholders are telling you that the scheme is not keeping up to date. It is the stakeholders who are keeping it up to date. They are the ones who make the decisions about what they are trying to do. They are the ones who have told me, “It will be a disaster if you do away with the scheme. We’ve heard rumours that it’s going to happen down south. Please don’t do the same thing up here.” I have to tell you that we are hearing different things. The plan currently works—
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
They run out at the end of the year.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
No, we do not.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
You have taken us on to talking about small producers—
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
Well, it is a continuation of a legacy scheme. There is no doubt about that, but it is a legacy scheme that works for producer organisations in Scotland.
There is some confusion about what the purpose of the scheme actually is. It is designed to allow smaller producers to get together and become a producer organisation. That allows them to get access to funding that would make them more viable and to achieve environmental benefits—there are producers that, as a result of being part of a PO, have gone from using peat to using coir. There are things that producers can do as part of a scheme that they would not be able to do individually.
The purpose of the SSI is to protect that funding in Scotland, because there is now the potential for producer organisation members in English schemes to join Scottish schemes and therefore start to erode that budget. The purpose of the SSI is to protect the budget and the integrity of the scheme for Scottish growers only. I make no apology for that.
On how we get funding to smaller producers, we are actively looking at how we can support smaller producers through other legislation. The SSI is specifically about the continuation of the scheme, which is vitally important.
I have met members of the producer organisations, and, in all the early conversations that I had with them, I emphasised how important the scheme is to their ability to keep on adapting and developing. They live in an incredibly competitive marketplace, so they have to have all the tools available to them to allow them to be as competitive as possible, while looking at how they can reduce emissions and be more environmentally friendly.
It is a really good scheme, and it works for our producers. That is why we should really want to protect it.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
I think that they run until 2028, but I will let Debbie Kessell talk about the technical aspects.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
It might well be, but that is not what we are doing. We are protecting a system that currently works.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
I would suggest that producer organisations collaborating is probably more important now than ever. There is far greater need for far more collaboration across all areas of the sector, whether that is fruit and veg—
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Jim Fairlie
I am not quite sure in which direction you are trying to take that question. You will have to rephrase it for me.