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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
Welcome to the committee, Jonnie.
Before I turn to the opportunities for the farming community from policy reform, I want to ask about your survey. You said that the highest level of anxiety was about future support. The Scottish Government has said:
“no matter what Westminster does the Government in Scotland will maintain direct payments and support our nation’s producers.”—[Official Report, 15 March 2023; c 25.]
I would like to reflect on that. Do you have concerns about what future funding will look like? Ultimately, if, whatever policy we deliver, there is security of funding for future payments, where is the anxiety coming from? Is it the lack of certainty about future payments, is it the lack of direction from the Scottish Government, or is it both?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
I said earlier that I think that the policy is going in exactly the right direction at the moment. I think that the consultations will iron out all those points. Other people are saying that we are going in the wrong direction, for this, that and the other reason. Do you feel that we are in a relatively good place to steer the bill to where it needs to be?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
I just plucked that figure off the top of my head. As somebody who used to receive calf payments, I would say that, if we are to reduce the number of cows as we are being told, that would be the only way to do it.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
You also said earlier, however, that we cannot face a cliff edge, so we need to do this gradually and fit it in—you and I know that farmers are not the quickest to respond to the things that we are trying to get done. Is there a balance between making sure that we are not facing that cliff edge but, at the same time, allowing farmers to adopt the practices?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
Let me stop you there. Earlier, you talked about the public good with regard to how we deal with biodiversity and all the rest of it. Is producing food not a public good?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
What do you mean by “technically”?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
My apologies. I have taken up too much time already.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
I want to follow up the point that you made about tier 1 and tier 2 support. I think that we would recognise that there are opportunities to tackle the issues with climate change, biodiversity loss and all the rest of it, but we have to be able to farm viably. I have a concern—you might or might not be able to allay it—that in the proposals that we are considering, we are trying to do too much with a single pot of money, which will have to stretch much further than it needs to. Is that a genuine concern or can we manage that?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
I apologise.
Jonnie, you said that farmers in England are taking a step back. Given the amount of support that is required to keep farming in Scotland viable, how do farmers take a step back if they do not like the policy?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 22 March 2023
Jim Fairlie
In effect, then, what you are saying is that, for the whole supply chain to work, you cannot try to find a solution for each individual bit—you have to look at the whole system that is in place.