The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
Displaying 2839 contributions
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
I want to touch on the understanding of the extent of use of different wildlife traps in Scotland and what the overall impact is on animal welfare and biodiversity. What is your view on the suggestion that licensing should be supported by statutory reporting in order to increase transparency and enable a better understanding of the impacts? I will direct that first to Alex Hogg.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
Perhaps so that NatureScot has an understanding of what the picture is throughout Scotland.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
Professor Werritty, coming back to the point that you made, the discussion has focused very narrowly on licensing grouse moors, and clearly your report goes much wider than that. I think that you considered at some point the power to impose fines on grouse moor managers in the same way as the Scottish Environment Protection Agency would have the ability to impose fines. Was that in addition to licensing or was it a separate thing? Are they two different things, or did you think that both of them would work together?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
You have definitely added more questions than answers, that is for sure.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
Can I put one further example that has been put to me? As a former sheep farmer, I may have had the desire to shoot a white-tailed eagle because it was lifting lambs. I would be fined and possibly imprisoned, and I would face the full force of the law, whatever that happened to be, but I would not be stopped from farming sheep. If I am a grouse moor manager and I do something and the licence is removed, I am effectively stopped from carrying out my way of making a living. Would that issue fall under the ECHR?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
Yes. Professor Werritty, are you aware of any concerns that have been raised by stakeholders that the provisions in the bill on licensing may not be compliant with the ECHR, for example, due the potential of disproportionate interference with property rights?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
Let us presume that the hoops are dead easy, you just apply for the licence and you get it. I think that you were suggesting that a heavy-handed NatureScot person could impose certain restrictions. At what point does that breach ECHR?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
Correct me if I am wrong—I may be misinterpreting or misunderstanding you—but, if you were going to fine somebody because they had done something on the grouse moor or on the land that would be subject to a fine, you would need a burden of proof to do that.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
Mike Flynn has already answered my question, thank you.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Jim Fairlie
Could you explain what you mean by “poorly despatched”?