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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 October 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay. Thank you.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay. I have a quick question about licensing. We have had various conversations this morning about the necessity of control. I do not think that there is any dispute—we have all agreed—that foxes, in particular, can be a pest to lambs and various other things. You spoke about exceptions to the exception, but is there not an argument for people having a seasonal ability to control fox numbers, rather than their having to say, “I have a particular problem right now and I need a licence to deal with it”? Is there not an argument for seasonal control rather than the issuing of one-off licences?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay. Thank you.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Earlier, you talked about how we gauge whether an animal is a “nuisance”—we can use that word if it feels more comfortable for you. Please do not take that in a derogatory way; I do not mean that at all. If you were a sheep farmer, how would you gauge whether a fox is a nuisance to you? How would you gauge that that fox is causing you a problem?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Will the member give way?

09:45  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

I ask this question purely out of curiosity. If ministers are required to get consent from local authorities when there is a national public health emergency, but a particular individual in a local authority says that they do not agree with the decision on the basis of education alone, who takes responsibility for the public health of that area? In other words, who takes final responsibility? We will have a public inquiry into what happened during the coronavirus pandemic, but if you take that decision-making power away from the Government and put it in the hands of local authorities, will we have to have public inquiries for every local authority that might have taken a different decision?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Murdo Fraser mentioned Professor de Londras. As the conversation went on, during stage 1, I said to her:

“The bill simply means that, in a legislative sense, we are preparing ourselves for the future so that, in the event of another emergency, we have the legislative competence to enable us to deal with it in this Parliament. Is that a fair assessment?”

She said:

“Yes, that is exactly right.”—[Official Report, COVID-19 Recovery Committee, 3 March 2022; c 11.]

We keep hearing about Professor de Londras being against the provision. I fully understand the position that Alex Rowley has taken, but the Government has stepped up and listened to what has been said. Surely nobody in the Parliament would suggest that we should not have the legislative competence to deal with any emergency that arises.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

I can see the value of that from your point of view, but looking at that from a farmer’s point of view, he will not have the capacity or financial capability to put those deterrents in place. Do your neighbours tell you that your keeping foxes and badgers out of the vast areas of land that you have actually puts more pressure on them?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

The point that I am trying to get to is that the bill allows for a two-year licence for organisations such as yours but limits to 14 days licences for farmers, who are basically trying to make a living. Ross Macleod, do you have a view on that?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Would you be comfortable with that?