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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

European Union Exit: Impact on Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

Was there any consultation?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

European Union Exit: Impact on Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

But other countries have been able to take agriculture out of their subsidy control regimes. Why has the UK Government not given agriculture the same respect? Let’s face it—agriculture is about ensuring that we have a resilient food and drink industry in this country, which, for us, specifically means Scotland. Why has the UK Government decided not to remove agriculture and allow it to get the kind of support that is required, particularly here in Scotland, to keep the food and drink industry resilient?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

European Union Exit: Impact on Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

With respect, secretary of state, being “told in advance” is not a consultation. If people have a consultation, they talk about something, they come to a conclusion and they deliver a set of principles. If the Scottish Government was not included in the consultation, how could it have any input on what was coming forward?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

European Union Exit: Impact on Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay—we are just going to have to agree to differ on this. Thank you.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

European Union Exit: Impact on Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

Thank you for that answer, Mr Eustice. I had planned to give you chapter and verse on the committees that have taken evidence on the Subsidy Control Act 2022 and the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020, but we are very constrained for time. However, I will cite Jonnie Hall, who gave evidence to the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee at the tail end of last year. Mr Hall stated that the internal market act drove “a coach and horses” through the common frameworks. Why are you not sticking to the principles of the common frameworks?

You are constraining the Scottish Government’s ability to support agriculture through the Subsidy Control Act 2022. If we have policies that are strictly designed for Scottish issues, the UK Government can override them if it feels that the policies go against the principles of what it is trying to do down in England. Is that not correct?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

European Union Exit: Impact on Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

The Scottish Government plans to make direct payments to farmers on the basis of food production, and up here we also have hogg and less favoured area support scheme payments. You have none of those in England. If you start being lobbied by farmers down in England who say, “This direct support is causing us problems in our marketplace,” you have the power to require the Scottish Government to take that subsidy away, do you not?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

European Union Exit: Impact on Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

I am very glad that my colleague Jenni Minto raised the subject of the Northern Ireland protocol; we will come back to that later.

I refer back to what my colleague Dr Allan was asking you about. I genuinely get the point that you are trying to be as positive as you can be about the situation regarding the subsidy framework. I refer, however, to what has been reported to the committee for socioeconomic analysis of the European Chemicals Agency—SEAC—the Scottish Government and the House of Lords, and I would particularly like to examine the statement that has been made by a House of Lords committee. It says:

“there are powers under which the Secretary of State can refer subsidies or subsidy schemes made by the devolved Governments to the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) which could potentially have the effect of overriding the devolved governments”—

and “overriding the devolved governments” is the really important bit—

“when it comes to proposing subsidies”.

Other countries have agriculture separated from any subsidy control regimes. Why has the UK Government not done that? Did you have any consultation with the Scottish Government when you were putting your proposals forward?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

European Union Exit: Impact on Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

But did you consult the Scottish Government on the Subsidy Control Bill? This point keeps coming back as a major issue. Did you consult the Scottish Government specifically on the Subsidy Control Bill?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Islands (Scotland) Act 2018: Islands Plan Annual Report

Meeting date: 4 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

I must apologise—I feel as though I am gatecrashing my own party by going out and coming in again.

I have a technical question for Professor Sindico. Alasdair Allan has alluded to the charges for getting island communities connected to the grid and the fact that connection costs more for an island than it does on the mainland or, indeed, down south. Given the renewable capabilities of island communities, is there an opportunity to do what they have done on Eigg and create community energy systems that do not require permission from anyone else to connect to the grid and that will therefore allow the islands to take advantage of their own natural resources without their being constrained?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Islands (Scotland) Act 2018: Islands Plan Annual Report

Meeting date: 4 May 2022

Jim Fairlie

I have what I promise is a very brief question for Professor Sindico. We have wind, tidal and all these other sources of renewable energy, but can energy from waste, too, play a role in reaching net zero in future?