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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 June 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Will the proposed SI continue to prescribe that commodities for which more than 1 per cent of the consignments are found to have harmful organisms are not eligible for a reduced frequency of checks?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Let me give you an understanding from a sheep farmer’s point of view. If you are lambing—

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

In that case, how can hunters maintain their sport while staying within the law?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

On the determination of whether there is a nuisance, if we accept that a fox will predate lambs and chicks during a particular season, would it not be more advantageous to deal with that before it becomes a problem rather than in the event of it becoming a problem?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

We want to do this in the best way possible. A farmer will know that lambs are being killed and carried because that fox is feeding a den. Then we are into a whole different ball game of what we call ethical pest control or ethical wild animal control, because we would be taking a fox out while it is feeding cubs.

Surely, we can accept the fact that foxes will kill lambs; we know that they do it. I have had 30 years in sheep farming, and I can assure you that, every year, foxes will kill lambs. We cannot decide which fox in the countryside is coming in to kill lambs, so surely the principle has to be a general understanding that foxes will be a problem for farmers during lambing and that controlling their numbers during the winter would be far more sensible than waiting until the lambs are being killed.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Having spent 30 years in sheep farming, I dispute that.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

I have a question about predator control, and I am looking for clarification from Kirsty Jenkins, Robbie Marsland and, potentially, Pete Goddard on a couple of points. Mike Flynn has already answered my question.

I will use the word “pest”, because if you are an arable farmer and you are getting 10 acres of arable barley eaten by rabbits, rabbits are a pest to you. Do you agree that the ability to farm in this country requires a degree of ethical control of wild animals? I do not need a huge explanation, just an answer. Do you agree with the principle that we should be able to control them?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Yes, but practically, how do you determine whether that fox is going to cause you problems? How do you do that?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

So, what would that evidence be?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

I will ask a question of Robbie Marsland directly, if that is okay. First, I want to put on record that I am glad that everybody in the room accepts that there is a need for land managers to be able to have a method of controlling wildlife. It is great that we have consensus on that.

I also put on record that I would in no way advocate that it is a good idea to allow packs of dogs to go chasing across the country to catch a fox and kill it. I am absolutely opposed to that—