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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 June 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Hold on a wee second. This is really important. If the—

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

What would you use to interpret that scenario? Would it be the kind of dogs or the environment?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

This is purely off the top of my head, but what if you were having to investigate what Ross Ewing has called a “vexatious allegation” and you got there and found, say, Alex Hogg and Ross and you said to them, “Right, gather up your dogs”? If you could clearly see Alex calling two dogs and Ross calling two dogs, and the dogs going back to them, would that be part of your determination?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

I have one comment to make—and it is purely a comment—in response to Robbie Marsland and Mike Flynn. Last week, the bill team stated quite categorically that the purpose of the bill is not to curtail hunting. The bill has to be about what the bill is about, but the bill team said that the purpose of the bill is not to stop people legitimately hunting. We need to make it clear that that is outwith the scope of this conversation.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Or is it Rachael? [Laughter.] She skipped me earlier, but it does not matter.

Contrary to what Robbie Marsland has said, I am a great believer in common sense. I think that common sense is a great thing, but I understand that it can leave loopholes.

I am also alive to the point that Mercedes Villalba made. The limit will make it a lot easier for the police because they can be certain that, if there are more than two dogs, laws could potentially be broken.

As Peter Clark said, the working relationship between Police Scotland and the shooting community is very strong, on the basis that we all have guns. The police know who the shooters are because they have already gone through that process with them. If the two-dog rule remains, there will surely be a bedding-in period during which the police will know who the shooters are—in my area, the police know who does the rough shooting. If vexatious claims are made against someone, there might be a period during which that has to be ironed out, but the police will get to know who is having shooting days in the countryside and who is breaking the law.

If the two-dog rule stands—with your understanding of what happens in the countryside and of the people whom you deal with—will you be able to use your common sense to take a view on whether any law has been broken? If no law has been broken, you will be comfortable with letting the activity continue. Why would it be difficult for the shooting community to take that on board, because the police also want to stop illegal activities that happen in the countryside? That is surely the ideal compromise.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Whoever organised the shoot would surely be within that locality.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

I am the MSP for Perthshire South and Kinross-shire.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

I have one other point, as Brian has said that he is going to look at his papers.

At one point, David Fairs talked about scams with regard to people getting their pensions. I see information about that all the time on social media, and I retweet it. Does the Pensions Regulator put out stuff on social media to warn people about scams, so that we can pick that up and retweet it? I retweeted information twice last week about scams that we know are going on just now. Do you put that kind of information out, David?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Does Jack Jones want to come in on that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Does anyone else want to come in on that? No? If not—[Interruption.]

Who did we miss?