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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

Right. What does it do?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

Yes—that is probably an important part of it.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

That is excellent. Professor Peacock, did you want to come in?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

Grand. Peter Singleton wants to comment, but I will put two more questions or thoughts to the witnesses before he does so.

First, do you now have a resource that can be upscaled if necessary? Secondly, I ask George Ponton to say how you get community sampling done. I am thinking of specific small communities. We have often heard that areas of deprivation were the hardest hit by Covid, and in some communities the uptake of vaccinations has not been high enough. Are you in a position to be able to go to specific areas to find out whether a community is in trouble or not?

I will bring in Peter Singleton first, and then the other witnesses can comment on those two points.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

To stick with Mike Gray’s fire service analogy, are we looking for a retained fire service in the scientific community that can respond quickly and keep the information flowing? Is that effectively what you are asking for?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

I find the stuff that you have all talked about really interesting. People have said that barriers have come down as a result of Covid, not only in your sector but across society. What bothers me, though, is that the barriers were there in the first place. Have you gone back into your silos? You have all said that there has been good co-operative working and that we should do that. Are you not still doing it? Have you all gone back to working independently of one other? I would have thought that that co-operation should be used across huge areas and many disciplines, whether that involves surveying for other diseases or all sorts of other public health issues. Where are you with co-operation now?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

George, do you want to comment?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

We heard in an earlier session about how the personal protective equipment system was established. It was learned very quickly that people cannot stick PPE in a cupboard and wait for five years until they need it. There has to be a continuous rolling of stock. Collectively, how able are you to say to the Scottish Government that you need funding to keep that going and develop it?

The PPE system has grown to become almost an industry on its own. How do you collectively say, “We can provide this, this and this through the funding that you give us, and then we can use that if there is another emergency”? Do you see what I mean? I am trying to find the quid pro quo for keeping it going, because we might wait for 50 years for another pandemic, or we might wait for five years. We just do not know. How do you do that? Are you looking at it?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

That answer has given me an idea for a question to ask the next panel.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Jim Fairlie

It sounds as if you should all have regular conversations with one other.