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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

So, we are looking at a critical mass plus—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a supplementary question for Vicki Swales. It seems to me that that is where some of the tension is coming from. Farmers want to produce food and to do that sustainably, but other parts of the ARIOB are concerned about biodiversity and climate change. Where do you sit?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

[Inaudible.]

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

Thank you, convener—you took me by surprise there.

There are key areas of uncertainty around future policy. Tim, you touched on the subject of data, and there is an issue around where the research gaps are. Martin, you seemed to be disagreeing with Vicki Swales when she was talking about the LFA side of things. What are the differences there as regards what the ARIOB should be doing? What areas of research is the ARIOB using to help to develop the policy?

I will start with you, Martin, as I have cited your comments on LFA. I will come to you after that, Vicki.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

Yes, but if there are not enough cattle on the ground in the first place, that system falls down. I graze cattle on the hills, so I fully understand your position, but how does not having enough numbers on the ground support the critical mass as well as high nature value farming?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

I am sorry, Martin, but we are really short of time, so I turn to Vicki Swales.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

I am hearing that there is general agreement across the board at a high level and that everybody agrees to the general principles, but where are the disagreements in real terms? Where are the details that are causing the difficulty, such that the process can be smooth if they are resolved?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

Do you have specific research that you are looking at with regard to where the LFA policy should go? Is it based purely on rural depopulation—on keeping farmers where they are? Do you dispute the science that Vicki Swales would perhaps use?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

Yes—it was the eye contact, Martin.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

This is a wee diversion, but have you done any work on native versus continental when it comes to hill cattle? Is it mostly native cattle that are on the hill producing calves for fattening?