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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

If you ban the use of glue traps, will you ban the sale of them?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

What evidence is there to justify the need for additional regulation of grouse moors? Has an on-going link been established between grouse moor management and raptor persecution, and why is licensing preferred to the alternatives? What alternatives did you consider?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

What alternatives were considered? You have introduced vicarious liability and taken measures to do away with poisons, as you said. Was there any option other than licensing at this stage? Why did vicarious liability not work?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

Why should there be a revocation of a licence provision for those acts on grouse moors? Are there not already fairly stringent penalties for perpetrators of those acts? Why should the revocation of a licence be added to that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

We have all the other sanctions in the definitions of relevant offences in the legislation that I spoke about earlier. It goes back to the earlier point about a vexatious claim if someone’s business is suspended on 12 August and how that will have a real impact.

I am asking these questions because they might be the main areas of debate as we go forward with the bill. Is it fair to add the revocation of a licence to the sanctions that already exist? What would be the methods of ensuring that people were not targeted?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

We had similar conversations during the passage of the Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill. In that case, we established the need for a good working relationship between NatureScot and land managers to ensure that this type of thing is taken into account in procedures. The bit that concerns me slightly is not the revocation of a licence—I have no qualms about that—but the suspension of a licence. In that respect, we need to ensure that a good relationship exists between NatureScot and land managers. Are we doing anything to encourage that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

We will move on to the theme of rural economy impacts and property rights. Clearly, as is usual, there are two sides to that argument as we go through the process. The policy memorandum states that

“The Bill is compliant with the European Convention on Human Rights”.

How did the Scottish Government come to the conclusion, in its business and regulatory impact assessment, that there will be little or no impact on those businesses that comply with existing law? How would it seek to reassure rural estates that are raising concerns about the prospect of an additional administrative and financial burden associated with licensing?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

To go back to the convener’s previous point, if we want the code of conduct to facilitate licensing, will it be a prerequisite to have the code in place before the licence is granted?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

That is the point that I was going to come to. If there is evidence of somebody illegally tampering with a trap or setting a trap illegally with the aim of someone else taking the fall, is there a way of prosecuting individuals who carry out that activity?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

I accept that fully. I would just like to have clarification of what the illegal activity is and how it would be prosecuted.