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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

I assume that we will get to a topping-out point, but I have absolutely no idea at this stage where that will be. We want to do as much as we can to encourage as many young people as possible on to buses, so that that becomes their habit-forming way of travelling. That is part of what we are trying to do. Once we have more data in front of us, we will review that, which will allow us to make decisions on what that will look like in the future.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

No. If the numbers of people using the bus have gone up and the reimbursement rate has gone down, it balances itself out. If I am wrong on that, Bettina Sizeland will correct me—and I am happy to be corrected.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

Could Bettina Sizeland be allowed to make one final point, please?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

I think that the commitment was given back in December, and the publication will come out in the next couple of weeks.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

In coming weeks.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

Once the review is done, we will be able to give you more detail.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

Yes. On the specific point about the age limit, that is not something that I have considered directly, so I will go and have a look at it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

You are going to get a book back from me after this.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

Sorry. Yes, absolutely.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Jim Fairlie

You will have to let me think about that question—it is out of left field.

The schemes that are in place now are doing the job that we are trying to get them to do. We are trying to get more people using public transport, we are trying to cut down on emission costs and we are trying to get that habit formed in the younger generation. Right now, with the schemes that we have put in place, we can see that the number of young people using public transport has increased.

I will give you some figures. More than 116 million free bus journeys have been made by under-22s in Scotland. That landmark policy is helping young people and families with children cut the costs of their everyday travel. There are now more than 700,000 cardholders. The scheme is working: it is getting people on buses and it is saving them money. The Child Poverty Action Group has reported that free bus travel can save

“a total of £3,000 in the lifetime of a child in Scotland”.

It touches on poverty, it touches on emissions and it touches on the desire to get people using public transport. For all those reasons, the schemes that we currently have seem to be working. If you want to come up with a better scheme to use that quantum of money, I will be interested to look at it.