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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I think that we have got the gist of it. I was not expecting quite that amount of detail—but that is helpful. The committee has been made aware that, while it might not quite be a pick and mix, some legislation is utilised while some of it is not. I am thinking about how we might consolidate a lot of it, with consideration to the provisions of the bill. I am interested in what legislation exists already and what the thinking is around the future of that existing legislation—and in how it would work alongside the provisions of the bill, should it be enacted. That was a helpful update.

We have a wee bit of time, and I do not know whether any other committee members want to come in. If not, I invite Ash Regan to speak at this point.

10:45  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you—that is an interesting update, in particular with regard to orders for lifelong restriction. I know that it relates to the budget, but I think that, separately, we would be interested to hear a wee bit more about the pathway project by way of follow-up.

That has been helpful to understand the situation. I will open up to questions from members.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I think that the date is in your submission. Perhaps that can be clarified.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Where we are coming from in particular is the fact that there is a great opportunity in the new estate development but also the need to understand the challenges associated with the older parts of the estate. If there is a requirement for additional funding resource to allow you to keep the older parts of the estate wind and watertight—never mind to reduce their carbon emissions—it is important to know what the cost implications of that might be. That goes back to Liam Kerr’s question whether the costs would be met within the additional amount of £40 million that you are seeking and which was quoted earlier.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. It is helpful to understand that.

If there are no more questions from members, we will draw our evidence session to a close; it has been really helpful, so thank you very much indeed for joining us.

That concludes the public part of our meeting. We will now move into private session.

12:05 Meeting continued in private until 13:00.  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

There are no more questions, so we will draw this session to a close. Thank you very much, minister and officials, for joining us today. We will suspend for a few minutes to allow our changeover of witnesses.

10:50 Meeting suspended.  

10:58 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is pre-budget scrutiny, which we commence today, focusing on prisons. We have one panel of witnesses. I intend to allow up to 90 minutes for the evidence session, and I refer members to papers 3 and 4. From the Scottish Prison Service, we are joined by the chief executive, Ms Teresa Medhurst; the deputy chief executive, Linda Pollock; and the director of finance, Amy McDonald. You are all very welcome, and thank you for your written submission.

Teresa Medhurst, have you found the funding for 2025-26 to be sufficient, and what are your organisation’s main asks for 2026-27? If you are unsuccessful in your bid, what will the consequences be?

11:00  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, minister. As a north-east MSP, I am familiar with the brilliant work that has been going on in the city of Aberdeen for quite some time within operation begonia; it involves some fantastic multi-agency partnerships and work.

Some of your correspondence to the committee referred to the potential development of operation begonia; I might be wrong on this, but I think that I read that there was potential for the operation to be further developed. I would be interested in hearing what other plans, if any, the Government has, separately from the bill that we are scrutinising, with regard to reforming the approach to prostitution.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I asked a question earlier regarding the provision in the bill to repeal section 46 of the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982, which relates to the offence of criminalising street prostitution. You gave a helpful response and indicated that you could perhaps offer more detail on that. We have a little bit of time in hand, so I would like to come back to that point. Could you expand on your previous response?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We can maybe come back to that if there is time. I am keen to let other members in. I will bring in Sharon Dowey and then Rona Mackay.